COMING SOON (see post #18): Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one?

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2011/05/26 15:33:18 (permalink)

COMING SOON (see post #18): Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one?

Hi-

I'd be (pleasantly) surprised if CW released an X1 demo at this point, since there's been no word on it from them since the end of March (see http://forum.cakewalk.com...?m=2292730&high=).

Since X1's new GUI is one of its selling points, the last demo (which was for 8.0), doesn't really help much. They must be getting new customers, but I can't imagine paying $399 for any software without being able to try it first, let alone one for which workflow & hardware compatibility are so key. Most if not all the competition has trial versions.

I'd think a demo would be a good thing, and it can't be that hard for them to disable this and that and put one together like they've done in the past.

Why do you think they haven't released one, and would/did you buy the full version without one? Are they assuming the video tutorials serve the same purpose? Just curious what the thinking might be here. The latest release seems pretty stable for most, so I doubt that's it.

Thanks-

-Susan
post edited by Susan G - 2011/05/26 18:46:44

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    The Maillard Reaction
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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 15:46:14 (permalink)
    Good question!

    Frankly, I would think the number of people who actually paid for SONAR X1 and decline to use it has become such a large number that the idea of letting a prospective customer like you demo it before Cakewalk is counting the money would just be bad for Cakewalk's "most successful version of SONAR ever" mind print campaign.

    Good luck... you've been a good sport about it.


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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 16:12:56 (permalink)
    Well, I can tell you from experience that writing a demo version is, in some respects, like entirely new software.  It does take energy away from product improvement and development.  And then there's the necessity to keep it in lock step with the production version.  My sense is that they have had their hands full keeping the alligators out of the boat, rather than worrying about an additional boat.

    P.S.  Hi Susan...
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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 16:21:18 (permalink)
    Susan,

    The question is "would you" I assume you mean "not us" in general. And I say this since most of us here do not have to pay $399 for X1 as potential update customers.

    So the "would you" means (to me); do I think Joe on the street will pay $399 without a demo? Probably because, marketing types would probably say "x out 10 lookers probably would". Where 'x' is in somewhere in the range of 3 to 5. 

    JMO.

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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 16:25:05 (permalink)
    Don't forget the cross grade offers.

    You can get a great deal on SONAR essentials just by being an Abelton power user, a Cubase composer, or a Studio Artist live taper.





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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 16:25:23 (permalink)
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    Susan,

    The question is "would you" I assume you mean "not us" in general. And I say this since most of us here do not have to pay $399 for X1 as potential update customers.

    So the "would you" means (to me); do I think Joe on the street will pay $399 without a demo? Probably because, marketing types would probably say "x out 10 lookers probably would". Where 'x' is in somewhere in the range of 3 to 5. 

    JMO.

     
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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 16:27:04 (permalink)
    I thought sure he was gonna close with "[copy]20 to 40%[/paste]"


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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 16:28:28 (permalink)
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    I thought sure he was gonna close with "[copy]20 to 40%[/paste]"

    Not enough gloss on that one nowadays
    (or is there?)


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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 16:30:59 (permalink)
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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 16:32:17 (permalink)
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    Don't forget the cross grade offers.

    You can get a great deal on SONAR essentials just by being an Abelton power user, a Cubase composer, or a Studio Artist live taper.

    What do I get for being Jonbouy's shill?


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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 16:33:26 (permalink)
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    Susan,

    The question is "would you" I assume you mean "not us" in general. And I say this since most of us here do not have to pay $399 for X1 as potential update customers.

    So the "would you" means (to me); do I think Joe on the street will pay $399 without a demo? Probably because, marketing types would probably say "x out 10 lookers probably would". Where 'x' is in somewhere in the range of 3 to 5. 

    JMO.

     
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    Yeah, I had that one in the can for over a year now. Just waiting for the perfect opportunity to spring it on you all.
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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 16:54:40 (permalink)
    There's nothing else in that can we need to be concerned about, is there?  Do we need a Biohazard team in here?
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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 16:55:52 (permalink)
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    There's nothing else in that can we need to be concerned about, is there?  Do we need a Biohazard team in here?

    No. I got nothin' else.


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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 17:05:18 (permalink)
    You've always got Am.

    ...and Mooch. 
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    You've always got Am.

    ...and Mooch. 

    Such a high followed by an immediate low.


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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 17:11:37 (permalink)
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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 17:15:20 (permalink)
    By "would you" I meant "would you (as a hypothetical new customer)". I realize most here aren't new customers, and there are good upgrade and cross-grade deals out there.

    I think I've skipped only one other upgrade since the DOS days, and a demo might have persuaded me to go with X1, but I don't want to risk it since my CPU is under spec and it sounds like my monitors are, too, based on what I've read here. Some say it runs about the same as 8.5.3, but a demo would have let me see first-hand.

    Given that, I'm probably not the best target for a demo since there's a good chance it would just confirm what I already suspect ;), but my question was really more whether they can attract lots of new customers without a demo. I wouldn't buy it without being able to try it, but it's obviously not a priority for CW, so they must be getting enough(?) customers without one.

    I hope there's a demo for the next version and that this isn't their new policy, since honestly I probably will stop where I am at 8.5.3 without one, even if I upgrade my system.

    Thanks-

    -Susan

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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 17:38:33 (permalink)
    Seth's now saying a demo will be released "Soon. Very soon": http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2311147

    This is good news! :)

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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 17:57:33 (permalink)
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    mike_mccue


    Don't forget the cross grade offers.

    You can get a great deal on SONAR essentials just by being an Abelton power user, a Cubase composer, or a Studio Artist live taper.

    What do I get for being Jonbouy's shill?


    Job satisfaction?

    What's a shill?  Is it like not the full shilling?

    I'm proud of all my shills, whoever they maybe.
    post edited by Jonbouy - 2011/05/26 17:59:14

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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 17:59:07 (permalink)



    My friend Bob played E Drums triggering Superior Drummer with a kit I custom made with no problems.  4 takes - on 4 different midi tracks - (Babu has copies and witnessed the creation)

    This should be proof positive that not only does sonar x1 - work well - but works very well when pushed hard...

    I mean have you seen Bob play drums into sonar x1?!

    Bob's a monster! 

    no need for a demo - 

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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 18:00:59 (permalink)
    I hope there's a demo for the next version and that this isn't their new policy, since honestly I probably will stop where I am at 8.5.3 without one, even if I upgrade my system.


    This is my current view too. FWIW.

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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 18:03:35 (permalink)
    Maybe im a fanbouy, maybe im a sucker, maybe I read the comments , gripes, and praises, but Ive upgraded every time with no demo.

    having said that, I am still at X1 with no updates or quickfixes because of issues with dropouts, crashes, and stops with  my audio devices

    I also dont use the features that are giving people fits, too

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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 18:10:11 (permalink)
    Jonbouy



    I hope there's a demo for the next version and that this isn't their new policy, since honestly I probably will stop where I am at 8.5.3 without one, even if I upgrade my system.


    This is my current view too. FWIW.

    I suspect this will be many a choice until perhaps X2 or X3.


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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 18:32:39 (permalink)
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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 18:39:44 (permalink)
     
    Does this mean we'll be able to use X1 to record demos?

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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 18:41:24 (permalink)
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    Does this mean we'll be able to use X1 to record demos?

    Ask your daughter.


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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 18:43:13 (permalink)
    She's asleep







    (and she's not old enough for this forum...)

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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 18:50:27 (permalink)
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    Don't forget the cross grade offers.

    You can get a great deal on SONAR essentials just by being an Abelton power user, a Cubase composer, or a Studio Artist live taper.

    What do I get for being Jonbouy's shill?

    25 to life, assuming the "competition" hasn't located you first.  


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    Re:Why no X1 demo, and would you buy a full version without one? 2011/05/26 18:55:31 (permalink)
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    Maybe im a fanbouy, maybe im a sucker, maybe I read the comments , gripes, and praises, but Ive upgraded every time with no demo.

    having said that, I am still at X1 with no updates or quickfixes because of issues with dropouts, crashes, and stops with  my audio devices

    I also dont use the features that are giving people fits, too

    I have almost always upgraded in the late part of the production cycle, so I'm in no hurry.  


    That, and hoping I'll find a month where I don't have to replace my daughter's glasses, my son grows so fast he needs new shoes TWICE, and my other daughter's something-or-other...all in the space of 30 days.

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