wrench45us
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Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
as noted on that Sonar forum by Candlesayhi CDM: Will we see these improvements in Project5? What about your instruments, like Rapture and Dimension, running as apps (instead of inside another host)?
Noel: We don’t have any firm plans for P5 at this time. Our “minihosts†for instruments don’t have these enhancements. It’s less relevant since these are far simpler with just a single instrument
CDM interviews Noel Borthwick http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/09/29/optimizing-for-vista-inside-the-mechanics-of-sonar-8-with-cakewalk-engineering/#more-4187 so there's the news We don’t have any firm plans for P5 at this time. couldn't be much clearer but there seems to be considerable interest perked up on the Sonar forum as b rock has pointed out elsewhere it must be irritating CW marketing a bit to come out with Sonar 8 and have it somehow perk interest in P5
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/09/29 20:38:48
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Fair enough. I suppose this is called a "sense of closure" on the issue.
post edited by DayDrumFour - 2008/09/29 20:40:57
I have authentic analog drum machine samples.
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Chris in Indy
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/09/29 20:55:56
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No matter .................. I have found P5 to be quite useful in my creative process, and it will continue in that fashion as long as my operating system doesn't advance beyond P5's ability to install and load. I want to know .............. can I get the P5 download updates 2.0 and 2.5 installed to disc, just in case someday they will not be available from cake? I hope this forum and it's select group, will continue on, whether or not they offer a P5 v3. 
Chris in Indy ............... Tascam US 2000, Behringer Power Pro 8, Akai MPD 18, Yamaha MG 82cx, Mackie MCU Pro, Mackie MR 8's, M Audio BX-5's, M Audio 61 es, Yamaha MM6, Roland SH-201, KRK-KMS 8400's, Shure SRH 1840's, Audio Technica AT 2020's, Windows 8.1 64 bit, Sonar Platinum, SoundForge 10, East/West Libraries, GPO, Real Guitar, Project 5v2, FM-7,
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/09/29 20:57:19
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Fang dang it 
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/09/29 22:43:03
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We don’t have any firm plans for P5 at this time. In other words, Cakewalk may keep P5 as it is, improve it, or scrap it altogether, but either they haven't decided or aren't telling. So, basically, we still don't know what we know, nor do we know what we don't know. Except, we do know that we know nothing more than we already knew.
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/09/29 22:47:14
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It is easy to make assumptions on that single sentence, but it can mean so many things. As cryophonic said, it could be all those things, but Noel could also meant that the plans of perf improvements in P5 are not firm. After all that was the question in the article.
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/09/29 22:51:24
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Actually, in the context of the actual article, rather than by itself, it looked to me like he was simply saying that their were no plans to add the performance enhancements of Sonar 8 to Project5... he said similarly about the micro hosts.
Don't see much new there, actually.
- zevo
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/09/29 22:59:12
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That's a non-answer answer. Cryophonik is right.
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/09/30 01:57:26
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We don’t have any firm plans for P5 at this time. No "firm plans" --> "soft plans" --> new P5 T-Shirts available soon from cakewalk.com?
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/09/30 02:19:53
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ORIGINAL: agincourtdb
That's a non-answer answer. Cryophonik is right.
Exactly. But I'm just glad that it was mentioned and hasn't been forgotten about in the midst of OVER 9000 different versions of SONAR.
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wrench45us
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/09/30 08:10:15
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I would agree that the response means nothing and was taken in the context of adding Sonar 8 - like performance optimizations.
It would seem to mean that they aren't doing anything now, but we might have been able to figure that out.
What is interesting is that even 'outside' sources keep bringing P5 up when what Cakewalk wants to do is talk about Sonar
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/09/30 11:57:21
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Everyone needs to adopt the Where-is-P5 avatar!
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/09/30 13:34:08
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Speaking of the the avatar, if you grab the one in my .sig, I've put a resized one on my server with slightly better resolution, but downsized. Not sure if it meets "avatar" spec for Cake's server, but it fits nicely in the .sig section. Now, all we need is a few decent protest songs and we'll be ready to march on Cakewalk Headquarters in Boston  . This is sorta fun.
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rcross
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/09/30 13:47:25
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Cool! It replaces signature on all my previous posts as well
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/09/30 13:52:25
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ORIGINAL: rcross
Cool! It replaces signature on all my previous posts as well
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inmazevo
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/09/30 16:12:39
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That's a non-answer answer. Cryophonik is right.
I don't know what that means. I thought we basically said the same thing: no knew news. At least, that's what I meant. No matter, - zevo
post edited by inmazevo - 2008/09/30 16:14:47
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/10/01 13:00:18
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That's a non-answer answer. Cryophonik is right.
Yes. Cakewalk have always been very tight lipped about their plans. Even in the middle of an embarrassing situation where Sonar was proved to perform far worse than its competitors in multiprocessing systems, and when most work was already done and was being tested, no one even hinted that they had been doing a major overhaul of the audio engine code. I really doubt that Noel would say anything at all even if the were already testing a new version of P5.
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agincourtdb
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/10/01 13:05:37
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ORIGINAL: inmazevo
ORIGINAL: agincourtdb
That's a non-answer answer. Cryophonik is right.
I don't know what that means.
I thought we basically said the same thing: no knew news.
At least, that's what I meant.
No matter,
- zevo
I meant Noel's answer was a non-answer answer, not yours. :-)
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inmazevo
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/10/01 15:53:30
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Oops.  Sorry man, - zevo
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/10/01 16:26:40
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Just to help all those in denial...... the quote is... "Noel: We don’t have any firm plans for P5 at this time." This means nothing has been or is being done in development of P5. Why would they spend money/time/resources developing it, if they had no plans? They simply give this "non answer" to keep the door open on sales of P5. They are not stupid enough to say "oh, we decided to not develop it any further, but hey, buy it anyway"..... Instead they can sell it for another year (at least) and get some of their lost money back they paid for development of it in the past. Good business sense, and common. You take the word "firm" out of the quote and you have the real P5 status. With the word "firm" in they can announce (whenever they see no worthwhile revenue stream from it) that it is in fact a discontinued product. This is not really so hard folks..... Have a nice day 
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/10/01 16:30:45
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This is not really so hard folks..... Yeah, conjecture is always the easiest...
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agincourtdb
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/10/01 17:34:33
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Next up we'll discuss the relationship between P5 development, the Triumvirate, black helicopters, the U.N., the World Bank, the Count of St. Germain, the Illuminati, the Order of the Templars, and Karl Rove.
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/10/01 18:06:40
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Next up we'll discuss the relationship between P5 development, the Triumvirate, black helicopters, the U.N., the World Bank, the Count of St. Germain, the Illuminati, the Order of the Templars, and Karl Rove. I did my 'Templars and Carl Rove' in Live7, The audio came out better Keep the faith. Rosco
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inmazevo
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/10/01 19:25:06
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Just to help all those in denial...... the quote is...
"Noel: We don’t have any firm plans for P5 at this time."
Hehe. Right on. I honestly didn't read it the way you did. I've been thinking P5 was a final application for over a year now, and I'm happy with that position, right or wrong. But I'm also not looking for information about the future of P5 anymore, so I'm not reading Cake statements about P5 from the perspective of "the final word on P5." I think that's likely why I'm reading it one way, and you're reading it another. Fair enough... But, I basically agree: it's likely a final app from where I sit, and even if they dig it back up I'm likely to stick with the version I have now for the remainder of my usage of it (and I still get some nice toolkit usage out of it). Doesn't bother me anymore one way or another. Let's talk about Battlestar Galactica again. - zevo
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/10/01 23:12:03
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I'm surprised at the optimism. If he had said, "we're thinking of scrapping P5 next year", there'd be a bunch saying, "oh, but he said they were just thinking of it, and there's still hope for this year!!"
post edited by Digital Aura - 2008/10/01 23:15:00
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agincourtdb
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/10/02 00:47:00
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I'm certainly not optimistic. But neither am I pessimistic. I'm not making any assumptions. Assumptions are the problem.
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/10/02 00:51:03
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I'm certainly not optimistic. But neither am I pessimistic. I'm not making any assumptions. Assumptions are the problem.
Cakewalk's disengagement from this forum is an even bigger one.
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agincourtdb
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/10/02 00:51:48
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ORIGINAL: Trusty
ORIGINAL: agincourtdb
I'm certainly not optimistic. But neither am I pessimistic. I'm not making any assumptions. Assumptions are the problem.
Cakewalk's disengagement from this forum is an even bigger one.
I tend to agree.
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/10/02 02:37:23
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the least they can do is update it with multi core support. I know I would be willing to pay up for this one thing.
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Rosco
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RE: Cakewalk breaks P5 silence
2008/10/02 03:48:12
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the least they can do is update it with multi core support. I know I would be willing to pay up for this one thing. +1 Rosco
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