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Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?)

Hey, I'm new to the digital world of making soundtracks and music. So I apologize if this question seems repetitive or simple minded. How good is Sonar X1 LE? By this I mean does it offer the most/least tools than any of the other brands? How well does it compare to Sonar X1 (or Sonar x2) Producer, Studio, and such? I'm curious. Thank you, and have a good day. Nathan.
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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/10 18:41:27 (permalink)
    Yes and yes. X1 isn't available directly from Cakewalk anymore though so if that is the route you are thinking of taking you'll have to get X2. You might be able to still find retail box versions of X1 but I don't think you'd qualify for an upgrade path from LE that way BUT you might still save money anyway because upgrading from LE to X2 Producer is still pretty pricy so you if you find a deal on the X1 boxed set then followed the upgrade path to X2 ($99) you'd probably break even... maybe even save some cash.

    That... is a lot of speculation and hypotheticals though but if you are serious about using Sonar for quality production you kind of want the tools that come with Producer such as Pro Channel and the LP series effects. They make a big difference. Cheers. 
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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/10 18:42:36 (permalink)
    Oh and welcome to the forum. ;-)
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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/10 19:04:21 (permalink)

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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/11 09:38:36 (permalink)
    Yes you can. LE is a Limited Version!
     
    As far as the worth it part, that's entirely up to you. to each their own as you have different needs than me and i have different needs then him and he has different needs then us

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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/11 09:53:37 (permalink)
    fwiw, although studio and producer may seem more expensive by comparison, you will see that the set of bundled products becomes increasingly attractive... such that studio is a better bang/buck than essentials and Producer is even more value for money..

    but only you can decide which is better for you...


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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/12 20:39:22 (permalink)
    Thanks for the warm welcome, I understand what you're saying. It all depends on what my needs are. I'm definitely interested in getting better software than LE. By 'better' I mean a bigger variety of tools. I find Sonar extremely well, and this is why I'm choosing to upgrade to a better Sonar package. Basically, I'm looking for Sonar software that offers more than LE. Without limitations and such. Yes, I'm a beginner, and I understand I have a long way to go; but I am extremely serious about producing music. So keeping this in mind. Do you think upgrading to one of the Sonar X1 packages would be more ideal than thinking of going to Sonar X2 straight away? Thank you all, and I hope you are all well.
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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/12 21:40:38 (permalink)

    Nathymoore,

    To your question of X1 or X2 : I would recommend X2 directly, because for me, X2 is really an updated X1 with more/updated features. 

    Because it's new, it also has some new (and old) bugs to be updated. But none of these are going to stop you from using X2 effectively.

    If budget is your concern and you're not in a hurry, keep using your LE first, and see what special offers you may get during the holiday season ? At this moment, all pricing at the Cake store seems to be at it's regular top.

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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/12 21:50:06 (permalink)
    If he gets X1 though he'll get GR4 LE then he can upgrade to X2 and get TH2. Then he has both as well as their upgrade paths. That may not be important if OP isn't much into strings though.
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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/12 22:16:58 (permalink)
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    If he gets X1 though he'll get GR4 LE then he can upgrade to X2 and get TH2. Then he has both as well as their upgrade paths. That may not be important if OP isn't much into strings though.

    Yup.. agreed! If the OP is into guitars.. this is exactly the right thing to do. Is the X2 free upgrade for X1 still on ?

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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/12 22:38:55 (permalink)
    I'm not sure actually but that would definitely be the best way to go IMO. Find a boxed version of X1 Producer (preferably the Production Suite) and hope they are honoring the free upgrade to X2. However even if they aren't the X2 upgrade is only $99 so you likely still be getting a crazy deal if you can find a discounted X1 boxed version somewhere. Cheers.
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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/12 22:42:01 (permalink)
    And I'm not sure if X2 comes with the full version of Zeta. It comes with full Rapture but that would be another good thing about finding the X1 Suite. Zeta... and that One ProChannel module. The LC2A Limiter something or other. I forget what it's called. They make all this stuff so darned confusing. :-/
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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/12 22:55:23 (permalink)
    The "buy X1 get X2 free" deal goes through the end of the year http://www.cakewalk.com/p.../Free-SONAR-X2-upgrade

    The X1 Production Suite is a bundle of SONAR X1 Producer Expanded, Z3TA+2 and PC4K S-Type Expander/Gate module. It is the only SONAR product to include Z3TA+2. The other versions of SONAR that include Z3TA+ include the original version (now called Z3TA+Classic).

    The X2 SONAR comparison PDF http://www.cakewalk.com/p...ONAR-X2-comp-chart.pdf
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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/13 18:19:42 (permalink)
    Hey, I'm interested in getting the package that offers the most instruments. With LE you do get quite a nice variety, but I feel it's lacking in keyboards and other solid instruments that can play a nice tune. Sorry that I'm not being specific, I'm still newish with music so my terminology isn't all that great when describing music, haha. Also, I've found this. I'm figuring it's best to get Sonar X1 Producer (With the possibility of upgrading to Sonar X2 Producer). For now, Sonar X1 Producer is good enough for me (I'm guessing this provides the most instruments and such?) I found one for the price of £175. A bit pricy, but is this cheap or way expensive?
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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/14 02:56:10 (permalink)
    Yes, Producer offers most instruments. 

    £175 = USD 285, and if you look at Cake store, X2 is going at USD 399.

    I would say this is a good buy, as will get a free upgrade to X2 till end of the year (you would want do so immediately).




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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/14 08:22:55 (permalink)
    Hey, Thanks for your insight. I understand that this is a lot of money so I just want to get things right. 1) If I buy the X1 Producer that means I get a free upgrade to X2 Producer (If I buy it before the end of the year?) 2) Will I have to buy additional sound packs when I get the upgraded software, or will there already be a variety of sounds and such (Like Sonar X1 LE for example). I know I'm being a pain at the moment, but I'm sure you'll understand that I just want to be absolutely sure before I spend quite a bit of money. Hope you're all well.
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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/14 08:54:17 (permalink)
    You need to buy AND register X1 before the end of the year to qualify for the free X2 upgrade. SONAR Producer comes with hundreds of patches and gigabytes of samples for the included synths. Will SONAR be the last product that you buy? Probably not, at least if you look at the variety of products discussed here. But you can go a long way with the what is included in SONAR Producer.
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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/14 09:04:23 (permalink)
    As @scook mentioned :
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    The "buy X1 get X2 free" deal goes through the end of the year http://www.cakewalk.com/p.../Free-SONAR-X2-upgrade 
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    All the included soft synts come with some sounds (enough for you to do some projects), and there will be more to include to your collection :
    http://www.store.cakewalk...tegoryID=59&cat=59

    While at the store, check out more Pro Channel modules as well.

    Also, check out the Software section often, as you may find regular posting on offers. I spend my first 9 months or so learning X1, and using the stocked sounds.


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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/14 10:17:24 (permalink)
    Remember about the X1 Production SUITE. That will give you the most stuff. I got it and it's awesome.
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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/14 10:23:06 (permalink)
    Understood. So if I buy Sonar X1 Producer (Via another website) does that entitle me to X2 Producer? Or do I have to buy Sonar X1 Producer via the link that Cakewalk provides? By this I mean, if I buy the cheaper version of Sonar X1 Producer on Ebay or Amazon, can I still get the offer? Edit - Production SUITE? I've heard of it before, but I'm guessing this offers slightly more than X1 Production?
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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/14 10:26:37 (permalink)
    Yes. Snag the Suite from a retailer and then register it through the Cakewalk website and then X2 should appear in your Cakewalk Store account. scook provided more detail upthread as to what the Suite gives you over just the regular Producer version. It shouldn't be too much more than Producer at this point anyway. You can no longer buy X1 directly from Cakewalk anymore as far as I know. Cheers.
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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/14 10:30:09 (permalink)
    Thank you, and thanks to everyone else for your patience and knowledge. I shall let you know how I get on :)
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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/14 10:32:14 (permalink)
    Oh and keep an eye on the monthly Cakewalk specials for Sonar extras. I missed out on quite a few good deals after I first bought X1 because I didn't know where to look. Best bet is to sign up for the newsletter but some folks have complained that they didn't receive the newsletter after signing up. If that's the case stay on their arses and they'll hook you up.

    Speaking of specials... anyone notice that the Overloud stuff is back on special... after all the hubbub about those deals ending?

    *facepalm*
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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/14 10:36:20 (permalink)
    You can only buy SONAR X1 Producer from a retail outlet. It is no longer sold at the Cakewalk Store. Make sure that you are purchasing a new in the box version of SONAR X1 Producer (i.e. it has not been previously registered). The SONAR X1 Production Suite was a bundle that contains a version of SONAR X1 Producer with a few more addons, detailed in my post above.

    Yes Beep, it is not unusual for third party stuff to gone on and off sale just like Cakewalk stuff. This one did come back fast. At least the cutoff date for this sale is much clearer.
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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/14 10:37:21 (permalink)
    No problem. It's a more than a little confusing to sort out the versions. That's why I just went all in right from the start. Their marketing is... uh... weird.

    You're probably gonna need some help to get set up at first so just ask the forum. All super helpful guys. I knew absolutely NOTHING in this spring when I bought it and now I've managed to finish a couple full tunes with the help around here. This place rules.

    In fact you might want to list your system specs in your signature line now so that way when you ask questions people know what they are dealing with. Good luck.
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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/14 10:38:25 (permalink)
    Yeah... don't buy used. It's illegal and you won't be able to register it.
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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/15 07:58:04 (permalink)
    Hey Guys, I found this and I'm wondering whether you think it is appropriately priced? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm...07&hash=item51a292cc10 I'm super paranoid that I've misread it (after all it's a lot of money), but I'm convinced that it's Sonar X1 Production and a free upgrade to Sonar X2 Production.
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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/16 11:45:15 (permalink)
    Bump (I know it's wrong, but I just want people's opinion on the product and price. I'd hate to spend such money on the wrong thing). I found this and I'm wondering whether you think it is appropriately priced? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm...hash=item51a292cc10I'm super paranoid that I've misread it (after all it's a lot of money), but I'm convinced that it's Sonar X1 Production and a free upgrade to Sonar X2 Production.
    post edited by Nathymoore - 2012/11/16 11:55:13
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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/16 11:48:51 (permalink)
    The page I'm getting is saying ebay removed it. It was probably a scam. I'd avoid ebay for buying software like this. You're better off going through a reputable online music dealer. I'm not from the UK so I don't know where to direct you but we have quite a few Brit forum members who would know. 
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    Re:Can you upgrade from Sonar X1 LE to a higher version? (Is it worth it?) 2012/11/16 11:56:01 (permalink)
    Sorry, I updated the link. Apparently he is a 'safe' and respected seller. I'm not sure of music stores that would sell the software cheaply. I'll have a look though.
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