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2007/12/04 19:37:10 (permalink)

Ca't hear when I play

I've used HS 2002 for years.... What do I need to do so I can hear my guitar while I record?

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    mgh
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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 19:42:38 (permalink)
    input monitoring?

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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 19:44:01 (permalink)
    More information please Lar.

    Have you made a change in your studio setup? If so, please name the specifics.

    If not, were you able to hear your guitar before?
    post edited by johneblue - 2007/12/04 19:56:29

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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 19:46:32 (permalink)
    "sonar ... yet so far"

    Love that tag mgh!!!

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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 19:54:36 (permalink)
    Vista Ultimate
    Playback Timing Master SoundBlaster X-Fi
    Record Timing Master Digital Input Device (can't change it though)
    Audio Driver 16
    Sampling rate 44100
    Driver Mode MME 32-Bit
    Output Speakers - X-Fi

    all else works fine.... an awful lot of work, just to get a wave file to play.

    recorded fine, but crashed several times.. Have plenty of ram as well.

    Any advice is greatly appreciated. Need any other info?

    Lar
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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 20:02:54 (permalink)
    Digital Input Device

    sounds like you have the s/pdif input acitvated (maybe)...can youn change it to soundblaster x-fi? if not - i wonder why - do you need to change the input in the soundblaster audio console ( go to start>programs>creative>soundblaster and bring up the console there?)

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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 20:10:11 (permalink)
    It is setup for x-fi speakers! Weird... I don't have s/pdif activated...but that's what shows.
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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 20:14:42 (permalink)
    if you right'click on the windows speaker icon can you brnig up a mixer and chedck the line in/analogue recording?

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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 20:25:50 (permalink)
    I deleted the s/pdif device and am receiving sound out of left speaker only with a slight delay. setup track properties to stereo.... ???

    gettingthere, but why only one speaker? plays both in way file..

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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 20:29:10 (permalink)
    Now when I play back, i get unable to audio playback device.....?? what is up with this.... shouldn't be that hard to get a simple recording... any ideas???

    Lar
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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 20:29:33 (permalink)
    you got the input track set up as stereo? should be mono - choose the mono input from dropdown menu

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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 20:39:36 (permalink)
    Ok, did that.... when i play still gets slight delay and left speaker only when recording.. during playback, both speakers...

    delay, got to get rid of. ideas?
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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 20:43:25 (permalink)
    delay is called latency...now cards meant for audio recording will minimise this (to 2ms or so) but the x-fi isn't such a beast. you need to be in asio or wmd/ks mode to get lower latency. try asio (you canchange driver mode in options>audio) first....once swapped, click the asio button and lower the latency (samples) to around 4ms (256 samples)...get back to me

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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 20:49:05 (permalink)
    did that. exited sonar went back in and error msg. no audio devices.
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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 20:51:29 (permalink)
    ok change to 16 bit 48k samplerate, run wave profiler

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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 20:53:43 (permalink)
    had to go to wdm as no driver available for asio...weird... will go back to asio and run profiler. all sorts of problems. now.
    will write bqack.
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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 20:56:46 (permalink)
    if no dice try ASIO4ALL http://www.asio4all.com/

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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 20:57:29 (permalink)
    asio or wdm... error msg. drivers do not support........ this is nuts.. i'm an it guy...
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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 20:58:41 (permalink)
    went asio and change rate back to 44100 as it should be.. setup in card that way... will get right back.
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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 21:00:27 (permalink)
    no good at all... cant get a timing master on playback or record... appreicate yr patience.lar
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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 21:02:52 (permalink)
    went back to mme and it ran the wave profiler successfully..... what now? any ideas?
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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 21:07:23 (permalink)
    well although it's a gaming card should be able to get it to work. make sure you have the latest drivers.(from website) open the soundblaster console and set to 16 bit/48khz. now open shs and do the same in options>audio. NOW try to engage asio mode...
    ensure you're in 'audio creation mode'
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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 21:08:24 (permalink)
    didn't get the gaming card... just the audio card... will try your suggestions.

    lar
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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 21:15:20 (permalink)
    whats audio creation mode? I checked the line in and it is 16 48....
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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 21:18:07 (permalink)
    and if select wdm my recording timing master goes back to s/pdif?????
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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 21:20:48 (permalink)
    and if select wdm my recording timing master goes back to s/pdif


    ?????????????? ok there must be someone using this card with sonar.

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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 21:22:51 (permalink)
    i would think so.... it's only a $30.00 option on HP..... seems like i can only use mme.... as it automatically runs the wave profiler .

    really appreciate yr assistance and patience.

    Lar
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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 21:32:02 (permalink)
    one question. why do i hear only out of left speaker? under track properties i should select left or right, not stero,, yes?
    it is setup for mono in consol view......
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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 22:43:06 (permalink)
    For someone who has used "HS 2002 for years", you sure don't know much about it.
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    RE: Ca't hear when I play 2007/12/04 23:03:42 (permalink)
    Because I've used the old version for years doesn't mean I know how how to use the new version. I wouldn't have asked for advice. I've used HS 202 to record acoustic guitar with very little effects. One would think that the new version wouldn't be so difficult to find the right drivers and parameters.


    I did search the forum for advice prior to posting and found little to help. If you can't help someone in a forum enviornment, I suggest you keep your sarcastic and arrogant tone to yourself. Good luck in the future.


    Lar
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