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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/09/25 17:29:51 (permalink)
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I would review the updated TOS you just agreed to.




Sorry Seth,
 
another side issue....... hijacking in true pirate fashion....arrrrr.......
 
What was that in aid of  ?




The updated TOS was so that we're more in line with our competitors forums and that we can help facilitate a better atmosphere.



Did we not broach on this  same subect with OBI from IK recently?
 
You guys have alwlays had way more thicker skin concerning negatives and trolls  on your products  that I would, had it been my playground.
 
I guess as a certain ex POTUS once asked what is is, what is constructive critisism versus pap.
 
Having said that , I think the mods will be fair and balanced.

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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/09/25 17:30:53 (permalink)
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So is there any reason to keep Melodyne single track 2.1.1? When I upgrade I'll get it again right?  Shouldn't I put it up for sale on KVR now?


If I understand correctly, X3 will come with Melodyne Single Track Essential.  If that's what you have now, selling it might be an option for you.  However, you may be shooing yourself in the foot on a possible future cross grade deal.  Also, I'm betting that the included version of Essential will be integrated into X3 and you won't be able to use it in another DAW like you can now.
 
I have Editor 2.1.1 and it should work just fine, (actually better), in X3.  ...or at least I hope so.  Looping in Melodyne would be great.
 
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AFAIK the version included works in other hosts and is the full version. I don't have others on my system to test though. It works standalone FWIW.

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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/09/25 17:31:07 (permalink)
You might want to reconsider censoring demented ranting in your forum. If you do, the demented ranting will relocate to KVR and Gearslutz, where it may have a bigger and broader audience.
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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/09/25 17:31:10 (permalink)
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I would review the updated TOS you just agreed to.




Sorry Seth,
 
another side issue....... hijacking in true pirate fashion....arrrrr.......
 
What was that in aid of  ?




The updated TOS was so that we're more in line with our competitors forums and that we can help facilitate a better atmosphere.


Thanks
 
The timing just seemed odd seeing as how it said the amendments were made some time ago.
 
FWIW I rarely venture to other forums, but when I do I'm always struck by how different they are to this one and not in good way. I'll be glad when you guys finally spill the beans so I don't have to go to them looking for info. Sad I know, but this is potentially a big upgrade for me as it would involve an OS change too. Liking the idea of Melodyne, but the colour customisation (lack of) in X series has always been the dealbreaker for me.

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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/09/25 17:33:44 (permalink)
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I would review the updated TOS you just agreed to.




Sorry Seth,
 
another side issue....... hijacking in true pirate fashion....arrrrr.......
 
What was that in aid of  ?




The updated TOS was so that we're more in line with our competitors forums and that we can help facilitate a better atmosphere.



Did we not broach on this  same subect with OBI from IK recently?
 
You guys have alwlays had way more thicker skin concerning negatives and trolls  on your products  that I would, had it been my playground.
 
I guess as a certain ex POTUS once asked what is is, what is constructive critisism versus pap.
 
Having said that , I think the mods will be fair and balanced.




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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/09/25 17:34:44 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Seth Kellogg [Cakewalk] 2013/09/25 17:37:43
The "new" TOS was pretty much identical to the old TOS as far as I could tell. Probably just a couple language changes for clarity. I see an enormous pile of those rules being broken daily and nothing happens so it really shouldn't be freaking people out. Not sure why we've drifted to this subject.
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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/09/25 17:42:12 (permalink)
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The "new" TOS was pretty much identical to the old TOS as far as I could tell. Probably just a couple language changes for clarity. I see an enormous pile of those rules being broken daily and nothing happens so it really shouldn't be freaking people out. Not sure why we've drifted to this subject.


Because I asked Seth a question while he was here, which he answered.  ;)

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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/09/25 17:49:34 (permalink)
 
I think the new TOS is extremely well written, in particular the section covering Flaming, Bashing, and Trolling.
 
Stating clearly that constructive and polite criticism is permitted (and quite rightly - actively encouraged), but that mindless bad-mouthing is not, is a good move in my opinion.
 
Time will tell, however, how much vitriol will be overlooked before any action is taken.
 
 
 
 

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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/09/25 18:05:36 (permalink)
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 I think the new TOS is extremely well written, in particular the section covering Flaming, Bashing, and Trolling. Stating clearly that constructive and polite criticism is permitted (and quite rightly - actively encouraged), but that mindless bad-mouthing is not, is a good move in my opinion. Time will tell, however, how much vitriol will be overlooked before any action is taken.    


Totally agree with this. Problem is, nearly every rule has been broken even since the new TOS so maybe a mod or two should be appointed from the more respected members of the forum. At least that way it could be seen as an independent implementation of the rules. An intelligent implementation hopefully, not a black and white one.

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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/09/25 18:34:21 (permalink)
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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/09/25 19:50:08 (permalink)
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scratch that.  I misunderstood at first read.  I thought they were offering an upgrade from single track to editor for only $49.
 


I had the same misunderstanding.  I thought that if someone could upgrade from the X3 version to Editor for $49 bucks then buying X3 would be a nobrainer.  I've been using Melodyne Editor in an ARA environment all summer and it is fantastic.  Someone coming from X2 (without Melodyne) to the ARA version in X3 is really going to enjoy it compared to V-Vocal (which I learned to manipulate to my satisfaction, as well.)

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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/09/25 20:02:16 (permalink)
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scratch that.  I misunderstood at first read.  I thought they were offering an upgrade from single track to editor for only $49.
 


I had the same misunderstanding.  I thought that if someone could upgrade from the X3 version to Editor for $49 bucks then buying X3 would be a nobrainer.  I've been using Melodyne Editor in an ARA environment all summer and it is fantastic.  Someone coming from X2 (without Melodyne) to the ARA version in X3 is really going to enjoy it compared to V-Vocal (which I learned to manipulate to my satisfaction, as well.)




Yeah, ad definitely needs a re-write.  How hard is it to say "This offer is only for Melodyne Editor v1 owners interested in going to v2" (Unless I've misunderstood it too) .
 

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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/09/25 20:13:32 (permalink)
I read it several times and it did say for Editor 1 to editor 2 upgrades. Although I think it was very wordy so I understand how the misunderstanding happened.

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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/09/25 20:37:08 (permalink)
This is confusing.  I hope one of the Bakers clarifies this update offer.  If one were to only have X3 and the Melodyne (assistant) that comes with it, do we or don't we get the update fore $49??  AND what is this Update for, what does it include?
 
The wording of this update offer is very confusing.




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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/09/28 18:10:20 (permalink)
This is confusing.  I hope one of the Bakers clarifies this update offer.  If one were to only have X3 and the Melodyne (assistant) that comes with it, do we or don't we get the update fore $49??  AND what is this Update for, what does it include?
 
The wording of this update offer is very confusing.
 
Did this get clarified?  If we have X3 Producer do we or don't we update Melodyne for this $49???




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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/09/28 18:14:20 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cecelius2 2013/09/28 18:38:59
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This is confusing.  I hope one of the Bakers clarifies this update offer.  If one were to only have X3 and the Melodyne (assistant) that comes with it, do we or don't we get the update fore $49??  AND what is this Update for, what does it include?
 
The wording of this update offer is very confusing.
 
Did this get clarified?  If we have X3 Producer do we or don't we update Melodyne for this $49???




No that offer is only for people with Melodyne 1.
 
If you want to update Melodyne 2.1.1 Essential (that comes with SONAR X3 Producer or Studio) to editor, you'll need to purchase that through them. I believe it is $299

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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/09/29 15:46:06 (permalink)
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......... This has got to be the nastiest forum I frequent and I really wish it wasn't so.  

You are kidding....yes?   Try Gearslutz or KVR or quite a few others 
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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/11/11 15:36:19 (permalink)
http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=sonar&L=1%3FL%3D1

Offer now lasts until January 31

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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/11/11 16:37:50 (permalink)
They have also extended the offer to upgrade Essential 2.1.1 TO Editor 2.1.1; note that you need to set up your account and register Melodyne BEFORE you click the link. 
 

Here's a link to the special upgrade for Sonar users. It will be valid throughout October/November 2013.
https://www.celemony.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/CelemonyShop.woa/wa/shopEntry?article=9404&validUntil=2013-11-30&task=addToCart&s=c1cb696330
 
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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/11/11 17:37:57 (permalink)
The upgrade from Melodyne Essential to Melodyne Editor is $149 for SONAR X3 customers. It's still going on.
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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/11/16 14:17:05 (permalink)
<BEGIN HISSEY FIT>
 
SO EU customers get ripped off again :(
The upgrade is 150 Euros ($50 more expensive than US!).
And it forces me to use their EU Store rather than the US, only will take Euros not Great Britain Pounds.
 
</END HISSEY FIT>
 

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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/11/16 17:26:34 (permalink)
melodyne is nice but overkill i can use vvocal  and bounce 2x faster on many tracks and move on, jmo.
so i dont see a good $$ to buy its full version.the track one works just as good too.
 

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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/11/16 23:43:20 (permalink)
Here is the reason why....
http://youtu.be/jFCjv4_jqAY
 
And it is still $50 more expensive if you are European, and the biggest joke of all is that Celemony is based in Germany. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4uDSnYQx3Q  (BTW I love Germany in case anybody asks).

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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/11/16 23:59:49 (permalink)
>> the following has already been covered in previous posts
>> I somehow skipped from end of 1st page to end of 3rd page 
>> Apologies for rehashing the rehash...
 
The $49 offer is is only if you already own Melodyne Editor v1.
V2.x Essential is what comes with Sonar X3.
 
From Melodyne web page:
Your update from Melodyne editor 1 to Melodyne editor 2
also
This offer lasts until January 31, 2014
(if you are seeing something else blow out your browser cache - they updated the page)
 
So really Melodyne is offering you a $100 credit toward upgrading to Melodyne Editor v2.x if you own M.E. v1 and got Sonar X3.
(based on Andrew Rossa's post:
The upgrade from Melodyne Essential to Melodyne Editor is $149 for SONAR X3 customers. It's still going on.)
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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/11/17 00:10:54 (permalink)
There is a lot of confusion here!!!

There are TWO offers!!!

OFFER 1. Here is the offer to upgrade from editor version (people who have previously bought Melodyne editor away from Cakewalk) expires Jan:
http://www.celemony.com/c...=sonar&L=1%3FL%3D1

OFFER 2. Here is the offer to upgrade from essentials version (with Sonar X3) to editor version  soon to expire (you must log in) for $149:
https://www.celemony.com/...oCart&s=c1cb696330

Or if you are European and you try to buy it it's $200 (with the second offer!)

Cheers!
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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/11/17 02:44:35 (permalink)
Jörg Hüttner from Celemony:
Purchases in US $ are solely possible outside of Europe since the US $ prices are without 19% VAT while the Euro-prices include 19% VAT due to EU-law. For a purchase in US $ an address outside of Europe together with a credit card also registered to an address outside of Europe is necessary.
 
 

Even taking that into account it's still $20 more expensive for Europeans... (b*tch , b*tch, moan, moan) :).

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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/11/17 06:34:54 (permalink)
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Jörg Hüttner from Celemony:
Purchases in US $ are solely possible outside of Europe since the US $ prices are without 19% VAT while the Euro-prices include 19% VAT due to EU-law. For a purchase in US $ an address outside of Europe together with a credit card also registered to an address outside of Europe is necessary.
 
 

Even taking that into account it's still $20 more expensive for Europeans... (b*tch , b*tch, moan, moan) :).


Hey Alex
 
In Europe is the VAT 21%. That said the $20 dollars you talk about is for the first $100 . The other $50 is another $10 dollars. You could also use a calculator to easily see what 21% of $149 dollars is. :-))
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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/11/17 06:44:54 (permalink)
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Jörg Hüttner from Celemony:
Purchases in US $ are solely possible outside of Europe since the US $ prices are without 19% VAT while the Euro-prices include 19% VAT due to EU-law. For a purchase in US $ an address outside of Europe together with a credit card also registered to an address outside of Europe is necessary.
 
 

Even taking that into account it's still $20 more expensive for Europeans... (b*tch , b*tch, moan, moan) :).


Hey Alex
 
In Europe is the VAT 21%. That said the $20 dollars you talk about is for the first $100 . The other $50 is another $10 dollars. You could also use a calculator to easily see what 21% of $149 dollars is. :-))




I don't think it is Alex who needs the calculator.
 
In U.K. V.A.T. is 20%.  20% of $149 is $29.8.  $149 + $29.8 = $178.8.
 
Alex says in U.K. we pay $200 (I've not checked this), and is asking why we are paying the extra $20?  $200 - $178.8 = $21.2.
 
HTH

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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/11/17 07:00:41 (permalink)
Point taken. Misread the OP's intention. I donot come from the UK and here the vat is 21%. I guess the only thing I can say is Sorry for the misinterpretation , but he's still 1% cheaper in the UK.
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Re: Celemony already offering X3 upgrade to Editor 2013/11/17 07:21:07 (permalink)
I can't say the difference between USA and UK prices bother me that much.  I still think the upgrade price was a steal.

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