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2015/02/12 17:29:24 (permalink)

Coffee House Rules

Janet said something the other day regarding only music related subjects being allowed in the coffee house; I always assumed that any subject (except politics/religion) was allowed as long as it was presented in a civil and non-offensive manner.

Janet's quote:
They allow "general discussion" in the Coffee House, but it is still expected to be primarily music related chat between musicians.

The coffee house rules state:
Discussion of off-topic music related subjects. No politics. No religion. Enjoy!

I'm not quite sure what an off-topic music related subject is; but my understanding of that sentence is only music related subjects are allowed in the coffee house.

Not trying to be a wise ass but it seems the majority of coffee house posts are not music related (including most of my past posts)  So, what is the rule here?

Just about every current event has some political or religious overtones, even if none is intended. Are they off limits too?

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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 17:31:04 (permalink)
i say go for it.
 

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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 17:37:20 (permalink)
Are you sure that was Janet?  Looks like something I remember writing...
 
Never the less,  the "rules" for the Coffee House are more relaxed than the rest of the forum.
Think of it in terms of a real cafe with tables and sofas with a record company office on one side and guitar centre on the other and a major venue just across the street.
 
The cafe will most likely get filled with musicians of sorts who will mostly be talking about music in some form or other.   That is what is intended for the Coffee House.
 
Religion and politics are out on the basis that they are too polarised and are guaranteed to start arguments, fights or worse...

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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 17:38:19 (permalink)
Who's Janet?
 
Are you referring to what Karyn posted in that weird "epic" spammer's thread a couple nights ago (sounds similar)?
 
Seems a LOT of leeway is given in regards to the technical "rules" of the CH but if something is threatening to turn into a flamewar... well...
 
And if you are indeed quoting that thread you have to understand that person has been banned multiple times for good reason. Extremely disruptive and bizarre.
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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 17:39:30 (permalink)
nm...
 
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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 17:41:41 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Beagle 2015/02/12 17:58:14
I agree.  The Coffee House Rules!!!
 


 
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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 17:44:08 (permalink)
Rules have always been selectively enforced.  Most coffee house posts would be deleted if the rules were enforced strictly.  The good news ( bad news to the few who give ****) is that nobody gives a ****. As long as people are not mucking up the main forums with unrelated stuff, I doubt it's  worth Cakewalk's time to heavily regulate. Even religion and politics slips in because it rarely blows up when the crowd is mostly homogenous. Even the disagreements here are mild because they often boil down to minor semantics and anyone adamantly disagreeing either remains silent or is quickly silenced by an overwhelming majority. Not judging that one way or another. Just saying it is rare anything happens here that is serious enough to warrant major changes.
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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 17:52:45 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby craigb 2015/02/12 18:29:18
Everything is music related if you hum when you type.
 
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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 17:55:17 (permalink)
Karyn:
Are you sure that was Janet? Looks like something I remember writing...

Yes, Karyn it was you.

Who the hell is Janet?      :)

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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 18:11:18 (permalink)
Janet is a pianist who is another of the CH crew MIA...
 
She plays a mean chainsaw.

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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 18:17:17 (permalink)
Everything could be considered to have a frequency and an amplitude and thus be part of a giant galactic composition. There you go. 

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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 18:17:41 (permalink)
true, Karyn, Janet is a mean gardener! 
surprised nobody has pointed out the no1 CH rule to Tom pertaining to Ed though...(even I know that and i'm only here every 6 months...)

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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 18:21:04 (permalink)
You mean, don't mention the moobs?

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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 18:23:00 (permalink)
moobs? what moobs? i saw nuthink

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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 18:24:49 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2015/02/12 19:51:03
Personally sick of all the different threads that try to cleverly name themselves after other threads. This is a real pain in the ass and I would love to see at least that aspect of TCH stopped. It's a pain enough to go through new posts when each and every single post is considered an updated thread... it's tedium made worse when you realize the thread you're looking at isn't really the one you want. This childish (as opposed to 'child like') behavior makes it even harder.
/rant
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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 18:25:13 (permalink)

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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 18:28:19 (permalink)
Ah, yes. Janet. She's a very nice lady.
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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 18:41:10 (permalink)
No, the cider house rules.

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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 18:53:46 (permalink)
Godling
Personally sick of all the different threads that try to cleverly name themselves after other threads. This is a real pain in the ass and I would love to see at least that aspect of TCH stopped. It's a pain enough to go through new posts when each and every single post is considered an updated thread... it's tedium made worse when you realize the thread you're looking at isn't really the one you want. This childish (as opposed to 'child like') behavior makes it even harder.
/rant




 
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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 19:04:25 (permalink)
Karyn
Think of it in terms of a real cafe with tables and sofas with a record company office on one side and guitar centre on the other and a major venue just across the street.

 
Yeah, I do. And I'm still waiting for my coffee, which has never materialized. Maybe I should file a problem report in the Problem Reports Forum about it. The service here is just...   
 
 
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Religion and politics are out on the basis that they are too polarised and are guaranteed to start arguments, fights or worse...

 
And Sonar topics would neva do dat, eva.   
 
Lest we not forget the reason for having the CHF. It is a valuable asset to "the community":

 
Ooops! Wrong pic. Here's what I meant to imply:

 
That's right. "Cute kitten pics"!
 
Cute or not, though, sometimes the CHF can make you feel like this:

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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 19:12:54 (permalink)
Godling
Personally sick of all the different threads that try to cleverly name themselves after other threads. This is a real pain in the ass and I would love to see at least that aspect of TCH stopped. It's a pain enough to go through new posts when each and every single post is considered an updated thread... it's tedium made worse when you realize the thread you're looking at isn't really the one you want. This childish (as opposed to 'child like') behavior makes it even harder.
/rant




You've been here a little over a month and you're sick of it already. What a shocking indictment of us all, lol!

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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 19:37:05 (permalink)
For some reason I find it easy to ignore threads I don't appreciate.

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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 19:38:07 (permalink)
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Godling
Personally sick of all the different threads that try to cleverly name themselves after other threads. This is a real pain in the ass and I would love to see at least that aspect of TCH stopped. It's a pain enough to go through new posts when each and every single post is considered an updated thread... it's tedium made worse when you realize the thread you're looking at isn't really the one you want. This childish (as opposed to 'child like') behavior makes it even harder.
/rant




You've been here a little over a month and you're sick of it already. What a shocking indictment of us all, lol!


Oh... you're one of 'those' people are you James? I can't believe that I'm being told that I haven't been here long enough to understand your unique clique? Because heaven forbid I should have been exposed to other forums and human psychology in my time and can then draw a conclusion about this place. But no... things are obviously very different here on the other end of the rainbow.
 
And no comments were directed at "us all"...  so go on... quote me Mr.Sanctimonious. Rather, comments were directed just at the children that play the silly 'name my thread like someone else's' game. Perhaps that's why you're upset... are you one of the children in question perhaps? You do actually sound more like maybe you're defending yourself in this exchange as opposed to debating the meat of the discussion. Nope... just unwarranted, random character bashing. Be careful son... you might overflow.
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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 20:00:32 (permalink)
Well, he does live in New York and walk dogs for a living you know... 

 
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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 20:08:20 (permalink)
 
 
Godling
Personally sick of all the different threads that try to cleverly name themselves after other threads. This is a real pain in the ass and I would love to see at least that aspect of TCH stopped. It's a pain enough to go through new posts when each and every single post is considered an updated thread... it's tedium made worse when you realize the thread you're looking at isn't really the one you want. This childish (as opposed to 'child like') behavior makes it even harder.
/rant




But don't you dare go mentioning it ever ...
 
Oh no.
 
Ostracisation can be painful, after all.
 
The Coffee House could (once again) be an excellent place in which to spend a bit of time, if only a handful of people stopped treating it like their own personal forum.
 
As to the original point about why the Coffee House rules aren't strictly enforced (in a similar way to how the other forums are now policed with a rod of iron), my guess is because so many forum hosts choose to break those rules themselves in here. By way of example, just look back through the FSF and see how many hosts have graced that particular abortion with "...senseless, inane, or empty messages...".
 
Dare I say it stinks of hypocrisy? Or is it another one of my conspiracy theories?
 
For what it's worth, I still thoroughly enjoy the company of most of those 'ordinary' forum users (excepting, of course, three particular hosts) who fall foul of Godling's accusations. It does get so very tiresome ploughing through the unfunny thread title puns and such, but I've given up whining about it any more. Better to just go with the flow and keep your head down most of the time.
 
Having said that, any host 'brave' enough to lock the FSF, and delete off a few of the irritating 'joke/dub' thread titles would get my vote.
 
Can't believe I said that.

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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 20:09:07 (permalink)
Though there are some relatively informative threads, it never occurred to me that people could look for those in the Coffee House. 
 
Agreed, it can be annoying at times, but I always assumed that the spirit of this place was that things are not to be taken seriously, because they're likely to take a very silly turn. It's a given and I hardly see how it could change, unless there was a major change in the users base. 
 
Not that I wouldn't welcome that change at times, but I don't count on it.
 
A bit like you wouldn't walk into a McDonalds if you want to eat something healthy in a classy ambience...
 
Otherwise, with a bit of time, you learn to spot and stay away from certain threads. 
 

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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 20:12:45 (permalink)
Hey, Godling. It's fine if you don't like stream of conscious parody threads and it's fine to say so. I think they're good for a guffaw but they ain't for everyone and they are actually against the rules of many other forums.
 
You however have chosen to be a jackwagon about it and insult large swaths of long time members who are just having a little fun. To me that is far more annoying than some silly wordplay.
 
Chill out.
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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 20:13:30 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Rain 2015/02/12 20:18:51
 
Personally speaking, I could go for having two Coffee House type forums.
 
One in which we could chat about interesting stuff, and another in which one could be as daft as you wanted.
 
Why not put that to Cakewalk?

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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 20:14:52 (permalink)
But who decides what's daft and what's interesting?
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Re: Coffee House Rules 2015/02/12 20:16:22 (permalink)
Maybe John was right all along?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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