Ctrl49 and Sonar Platinum

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2017/02/05 13:55:01 (permalink)

Ctrl49 and Sonar Platinum

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I am unable to configure the M-Audio CTRL-49 on Sonar. On Preference I have already set up the midi device in input and output on both USB and Mackie/HUI. Then on the Control Surface I have added the Mackie Control and Input Port and Output Port have configure the CTRL49 - Mackie/HUI. On the bottom on each track it display the fader number but there is no control on Sonar.
 
I don't know if I need to configure something else.
 
Also I have notice that the main volume fader it maps to the volume of the interface and not the main master volume. Is this something I can change or it is suppose to be that way? 
 
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    azslow3
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    Re: Ctrl49 and Sonar Platinum 2017/02/05 18:59:15 (permalink)
    M-Audio is not completely MCU compatible. Find MackieControl.dll (normally in C:\Cakewalk\Shared Surfaces) and replace it following these instructions: http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,341.0.html
    Then in the settings (Sonar menu / Utilities / Mackie Control - 1) set "Disable handshake". You can also change other options there, including what is controlled by the master fader. Press "F1" to open help file.

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    Re: Ctrl49 and Sonar Platinum 2017/02/06 13:30:23 (permalink)
    Great! Thanks it work.
     
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    Re: Ctrl49 and Sonar Platinum 2017/02/07 22:13:54 (permalink)
    Darn it !!
     
    AZLOW to the answer again     LOL.

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    Re: Ctrl49 and Sonar Platinum 2017/02/08 02:30:38 (permalink)
    Jesse G
    AZLOW to the answer again     LOL.

    While Sanctuary is in my listening list, I am not low, I am just slow

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    Re: Ctrl49 and Sonar Platinum 2017/02/08 11:55:04 (permalink)
    A healthy competition to see who can help someone the fastest does my heart good in these "crabby ass" times.

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    Re: Ctrl49 and Sonar Platinum 2017/02/08 17:43:42 (permalink)
    azslow3
    Jesse G
    AZSLOW to the answer again     LOL.

    While Sanctuary is in my listening list, I am not low, I am just slow


    OOOoopps !! Sorry for the error in the name. 

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    Re: Ctrl49 and Sonar Platinum 2017/02/10 12:29:23 (permalink)
    BassDaddy
    A healthy competition to see who can help someone the fastest does my heart good in these "crabby ass" times.



                 

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    Re: Ctrl49 and Sonar Platinum 2017/03/11 21:26:35 (permalink)
    Hi! thank for you help! It work until I updated Sonar yesterday. 
     
    Have try the same approach but it does not work. now the MakiControl name under Preference / Control Surface in the connected controllers/Surface is in parenthesis like it is missing. 
     
    Any hints? 
     
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    Re: Ctrl49 and Sonar Platinum 2017/03/12 07:56:44 (permalink)
    PiBoy
    Have try the same approach but it does not work. now the MakieControl name under Preference / Control Surface in the connected controllers/Surface is in parenthesis like it is missing. 
     
    Any hints? 

    Sonar always overwrite it on update, that part is expected.
    But your observation means the registration of this DLL is broken. That is not expected.
     
    1. Install "standard" surfaces pack. https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013438/Control-Surface-Installers That should fix the problem with paranthesis.
    2. Replace MackieControl with moded version again. That should bring back "Disable handshake" option.

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    Re: Ctrl49 and Sonar Platinum 2017/03/14 01:38:56 (permalink)
    The M-Audio Code-49 claims to be Mackie compatible. 
     
    "Code also supports Mackie Control/HUI control modes, so right out of the box you are ready to work with most DAWs with minimal setup."   http://www.m-audio.com/products/view/code-49
     
    Any opinions?

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    Re: Ctrl49 and Sonar Platinum 2017/03/14 11:52:02 (permalink)
    abacab
    The M-Audio Code-49 claims to be Mackie compatible. 
     
    "Code also supports Mackie Control/HUI control modes, so right out of the box you are ready to work with most DAWs with minimal setup."   http://www.m-audio.com/products/view/code-49
     
    Any opinions?

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    Re: Ctrl49 and Sonar Platinum 2017/03/14 16:21:41 (permalink)
    azslow3
    abacab
    The M-Audio Code-49 claims to be Mackie compatible. 
     
    "Code also supports Mackie Control/HUI control modes, so right out of the box you are ready to work with most DAWs with minimal setup."   http://www.m-audio.com/products/view/code-49
     
    Any opinions?

    Unlike music, politic, economy, etc., in technic if something is not there, then opinions, statements, etc. can not change the fact that not existing thing does not work



    Just wondering if something technical changed between the Ctrl-49 and the newer Code series ...

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    Re: Ctrl49 and Sonar Platinum 2017/04/06 03:20:59 (permalink)
    Sorry for my very late reply. Until today I could use Sonar and hopping the upgrades fix this problem, but to my surprise, No.
     
    Again I had to rely on this nice forum and group of people. Thank you again azslow3
     
    It took me lees time this time. ;)
     
    And yes abacab, it does not work as advertise. Also I had my reserve about if a midi keyboard work well in a live situations, and I can say this far: No!. Sometimes the midi key stay press, and sometimes the typical reset of the machine, and man... that is not like that. Hope is only configuration and use. Also hope that the Cakewalk guys look at this issue. 
     
    Keep Shining! 
     
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    Re: Ctrl49 and Sonar Platinum 4 weeks ago (permalink)

    The M-Audio Code-49 claims to be Mackie compatible. 
     
    "Code also supports Mackie Control/HUI control modes, so right out of the box you are ready to work with most DAWs with minimal setup."   http://www.m-audio.com/products/view/code-49
     
    Any opinions?

     
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    Re: Ctrl49 and Sonar Platinum 4 weeks ago (permalink)

    abacab
    The M-Audio Code-49 claims to be Mackie compatible. 
     
    "Code also supports Mackie Control/HUI control modes, so right out of the box you are ready to work with most DAWs with minimal setup."   http://www.m-audio.com/products/view/code-49
     
    Any opinions?
    Unlike music, politic, economy, etc., in technic if something is not there, then opinions, statements, etc. can not change the fact that not existing thing does not work 

     
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    Re: Ctrl49 and Sonar Platinum 4 weeks ago (permalink)

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    abacab
    The M-Audio Code-49 claims to be Mackie compatible. 
     
    "Code also supports Mackie Control/HUI control modes, so right out of the box you are ready to work with most DAWs with minimal setup."   http://www.m-audio.com/products/view/code-49
     
    Any opinions?
    Unlike music, politic, economy, etc., in technic if something is not there, then opinions, statements, etc. can not change the fact that not existing thing does not work 


    Just wondering if something technical changed between the Ctrl-49 and the newer Code series ...

     
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    Re: Ctrl49 and Sonar Platinum 2017/04/06 03:22:03 (permalink)
    Sorry for my very late reply. Until today I could use Sonar and hopping the upgrades fix this problem, but to my surprise, No.
     
    Again I had to rely on this nice forum and group of people. Thank you again azslow3
     
    It took me lees time this time. ;)
     
    And yes abacab, it does not work as advertise. Also I had my reserve about if a midi keyboard work well in a live situations, and I can say this far: No!. Sometimes the midi key stay press, and sometimes the typical reset of the machine, and man... that is not like that. Hope is only configuration and use. Also hope that the Cakewalk guys look at this issue. 
     
    Keep Shining! 
     
    PiBoy
     

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    Re: Ctrl49 and Sonar Platinum 2017/04/06 12:37:04 (permalink)
    PiBoy
     
    And yes abacab, it does not work as advertise. Also I had my reserve about if a midi keyboard work well in a live situations, and I can say this far: No!. Sometimes the midi key stay press, and sometimes the typical reset of the machine, and man... that is not like that. Hope is only configuration and use. Also hope that the Cakewalk guys look at this issue.
     



    I have a Roland A300-PRO that I use with Sonar.  As far as I know, the A-PRO series are the only controllers with native support in Sonar through the use of the A-PRO plugin.
     
    I tried a M-Audio keyboard controller years ago, and gave up on the control aspects and bought the A-PRO.  I still like the M-Audio as a keyboard, with a nice mod wheel action.
     
    Sonar is awesome in the studio, but as far as live use goes, many people prefer something like Ableton Live, for a couple of reasons.  It's rock solid audio engine, and the controller support out of the box is unmatched.
     
    See this list of controllers with auto-mapping to control common parameters in Live as soon as you plug them in.
     
    Warning, it's a long list...
     
    https://www.ableton.com/en/live/feature-comparison/#compatible-hardware

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    Re: Ctrl49 and Sonar Platinum 2017/04/06 18:48:38 (permalink)
    Thanks abacab, 
     
    What i was referring on the Ctrl-49 on the problems I had on a live performance is that the midi keyboard comes with a software called VIP that runs all the plugins you have. Here is where I have experience, in rehearsal, some problems and yet I dont trust it for live use. Ableton Live I think work great, I will try to use it instead of the VIP software but hope is only configuration or an update of the app since it looks that it should be easy to program patches and programs but again maybe I have to use it more to configure it right.
     
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