Cwbrn-21308 V-Vocal shortcut Not working

Originally reported in X3c still not working in X3d
 

CakeAlexS
Hi Keni
 
We still need steps please (so will Cake)....

Has this been troublesshooted? Can you and other forum members reproduce this every time?


i.e. Check my comment here:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/cwbrn22286-No-zoom-undo-in-PRV-m2955512.aspx
 
"Vocal shortcut Not working" is pretty meaningless to me, and you need to give a scenario where it can be reproduced every time, and rule out the fact that it could be just your system.
 
Thanks...

Hi Alex...
 
I'm sorry I don't post the way you (and other) would like, but when I post here I am talking first... not posting a bug report and I am more than happy to be more exacting if/when others are interested in having such..
 
I will do better...
 
chose a track (monophonic) to use V-Vocal on
split off a region to apply V-Vocal to and select it
press shift-V to open/apply V-Vocal to the selected region
 
expected:
v-vocal to open showing the regions data
 
actual
nothing
 
Keni
 

scook
Are you sure SHIFT-V is bound to a function in X3? The keyboard shortcuts dialog in Preferences indicates SHIFT-V is not bound to a function. Is is possible with the introduction of Region FXs and the legacy status of V-Vocal the binding was dropped?

You are correct that it is not listed as bound to the tool... But in searching for shortcuts previously It is still listed as is shift-m to do the same with melodyne... I'm trying to locate the shortuct listing that displayed this but so far unable...
 
keni
 
 
Lets not get too crazy about playing beta testers here... We all appreciate the help and place to voice our concerns, but it just isn't always necessary to be that formal...
 
I thought it pretty obvious that shift v not working to open V-vocal pretty explanatory by itself.... Obviously there needs to be a track with data on it etc.... but none of that matters as we all know that to be the case... you can't open V-Vocal without selecting a clip to open it on... Or is there?
 
Shift v has always opened it in previous versions of sonar and I did find it listed in X3 as well as melodyne.... Melodyne worked with the shortcut in X3c, but now it's not working in X3d...
 
Keni
 
BTW... I also looked and can't find a function to bind the commands to so I thought they were internally bound somehow...
 
 

dubdisciple
Keni, it's not so much about posting the way we would like you.  personally, I'm not that much of a stickler for formalities, but you have to tell us something more than :
 

Cwbrn-21308 V-Vocal shortcut Not working

Originally reported in X3c still not working in X3d
 
for us to contribute anything.   It's as simple as , the more we know about the specifics of your problem the better we can be in at least trying to help

What else is there to tell? There is only one V-Vocal Shortcut and only one way to use it
 
V-Vocal Works, but the shortcut to create/open does not...
 
I'm sorry if I thought that obvious...
 
I just found this in the online shortcut docs:
Note that I still haven't found where in the docs it also claims to do the same for Melodyne (which also doesn't work), but I found it once before so I will keep looking
 
V-Vocal shortcuts
 
Table 260. V-Vocal keyboard shortcuts
Command
Shortcut
Open V‑Vocal Editor
SHIFT+V
Create V‑Vocal clip
SHIFT+V
 
Note: All V‑Vocal shortcuts in the Editor itself are listed in the V‑Vocal help file.

dubdisciple
I'm just going by your initial post. telling us a shortcut is not working actually tells us very little except you are frustrated.  "Not working" could mean you are getting an error message , nothing happens at all,a total crash of Sonar and a number of other things.  You could get different results in old projects versus new projects. You have since explained it in subsequent posts  but it might help in future posts to give us more.

I'll do my best...

Hey, Keni,
 
Please don't change the way you post, this place wouldn't be the same if you did.
 
We've managed for years so far.  I understood you.  After all' this is a peer to peer forum, not a Beta Tester forum.
 
Merry Christmas.

I think we are beating a dead horse at this point.  I think he gets that what is obvious to him may not be to others and to be fair to him, he is not required to fill out a beta test form every time he wants to complain about an issue.  he said he would try and give us a better description of problem next time and that is good enough for me.
 
As far as the problem itself, that shortcut is not bound to that for me so i am probably of little help to explain why it doesn't work.

ampfixer
Since when did you become in charge of posting formats? I hate it when a single person tells everyone else that their way of doing things is the only way of doing things.
 
You've been at it a few days now and I don't even dare ask a question anymore, lest the posting police jump in.
 
It's Christmas, lighten up man.

Here here. When I question it I get accused of being a troll.

I don't think there's any need for a formal bug reporting format on this forum, however it's always useful to include more info about the problem. After all someone who has never used V-Vocal or who isn't familiar with it's associated short cuts may be more than willing to test it on their system and give you a definite answer about whether or not it works at their end in a very short space of time, without having to wait for someone who is familiar with V-Vocal to reply.

Keni, I believe that VV opens like Melodyne, via the Region FX tab, now.  Highlight your clip or region and open the Region FX tab where you will find VV and Melodyne available.  This has been reported here on several occasions.

> So are you are saying SHIFT + V should do the same as RegionFX -> V-Vocal-Create Region FX?
 
Okay so I think we've established the answer to this is yes
 
> I just found this in the online shortcut docs:
 
Where exactly is SHIFT + V documented? So I can read up on it? Can you paste a link?
 
- many thanks...!
 
 

Got there!
I can confirm I can reproduce, and I've also logged this myself as CWBRN-22703
 
Thanks..
 
 
STEPS
Open an existing project with audio clips.
Click and select an audio clip (so its highlighted).
Click SHIFT + V


EXPECTED
V-Vocal should open as documented under "V-Vocal shortcuts":
http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation/default.aspx?Doc=SONAR%20X3&Lang=EN&Req=Menus1.181.html#1869172

ACTUAL
Nothing.

No probs Keni , sorry I was really trying to understand here - all is good :)

sharke
I don't think there's any need for a formal bug reporting format on this forum, however it's always useful to include more info about the problem. After all someone who has never used V-Vocal or who isn't familiar with it's associated short cuts may be more than willing to test it on their system and give you a definite answer about whether or not it works at their end in a very short space of time, without having to wait for someone who is familiar with V-Vocal to reply.

very true

CakeAlexS
No probs Keni , sorry I was really trying to understand here - all is good :)

Sounds good to me... thanks for taking the time to listen to my issue and work with me to figure it out...
 
Keni