THANK YOU JOEP46! you have just scared the crap out of me.
 
"Major BACKUP now in progress"
 
 
@ Chregg. Posting that link was extremely immature of you.  My link is much more appropriate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIXg9KUiy00

I don't think the OP is for real. For one, all the audio is on the hardrive if he indeed did record it. He mentions other daws, so surely he is expert enough to know that sonar creates an audio file for each clip. It doesn't sound like he had hard drive failure for his total computer, or at least he didn't mention it. With his total of 3 posts and the final one being this odd flame, I say delete and move on.

Yeah - it's just fun to make fun of him at this point - even if he disappeared like his data.

Bob Bone

You have sunk so low that you have even lost me.

joep46

Well, having lost Joep46 we might as well all go home...


Or, since http://www.speeddate.com/personals-in-boston-massachusetts-united-states/4635085/joep46.html says everything is about him we should congratulate him on his ongoing singleness and hope he finds a DAW worth of his  "searing leads" and "syncopated synth line(s)" Oh, wait... he promised himself he would never let this happen again. 


ggg

Hopefully when the dust settles, the OP will find his tracks somewhere on his hard disk.  I would probably be equally emotional and saying all kinds of things in that situation.

In case it is helpful:
- Technicians who work on DAW problems tell me Cakewalk is as stable as any.  I suppose that doesn't help if you are the one who lost work, but it is good to know.  (I hear good things about Studio v2, but it is too new to evaluate stability compared to others.)
- While working on a file, I alternate saves between my internal D drive and an external drive.  Periodically, I change the version number so I always have an internal and external copy of the current version and past versions.
- The worst case scenario is that something is corrupted, you don't realize it, and you save the file in both places: but if you have previous versions at least you are not starting from zero.

God luck and sorry for your pain.

@ ggg seriously is that him lol

 I myself do not use auto-save, because I like to know precisely where I was when a save took place.

That's a lame excuse and poor advice. Who cares when the save took place? When Sonar crashes, you need to go back to the last save whenever it was. I'd rather have a save that's 5 minutes old then one that 20 minutes or older. 

Joe - heeeeerrrre's your sign

Note to self: never use the same screen name for an online dating site that you used elsewhere to proudly announce your self-righteous ignorance. I'm sure gals would never think to google a screen name before contacting a potential date and find there a link to this thread!

LOL...all he says is that the tracks disappeared "from track view." Maybe he's had Sonar running constantly since last Thursday, and he doesn't know you can save your work.
Wait till he finds out he can. It's going to totally revolutionize his whole computing experience 

Haha John.... well then, I think I am safe now, you too man!

Check this out… http://www.xlnaudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4650
 
At the end of post 3, joep46 states… “I have to take a pill now!!!”
 
Maybe, just maybe, he took one of (or serval) of these pills “last Thursday” and he fell into a deep deep sleep. Zonked! Where he dreamed a wonderful dream. He dreamed he was recorded a "great searing lead line" then a "wonderful syncopated synth line" then, recorded a "clever Bass line that added so much". Took a break for a while and drank a really nice cup of hot tea with a piece of lemon that real invigorated him, so, once again he jumped into action and "spent hours and hours tweaking and refining all his drum programming". Sitting in front of his PC he suddenly felt extremely and completely drained, so he closed his eyes. He had a happy simile on his face knowing he had produced such a masterpiece without even needing to turn his computer ON! Oh! Sonar X2, where did "I go wrong"??... 


Well... I hope we can all learn from this and never ever drink a really nice cup of hot tea with a piece of lemon while recording a masterpiece.

robert_e_bone


I was wrong about my redundant backup of the projects folder.  I DO keep that prior version, but ONLY until the backup of the projects folder completes.

The weekly does delta and a restore image and all of that.

Wherever this guy lands - I think he is already long gone, or at the very least pissed off at himself and the world, but anyways until he learns from things like this to heed the advice of the COUNTLESS times we are told to backup data (they even have commercials for backup sites and software during FOOTBALL games), he will continue to go through life really really angry.

I didn't have a meltdown when my lack of backups bit me BIG TIME.  I just vowed to myself that it would NOT happen again, and I implemented the steps to see that to the best of ability it does not.  Since it looks like it's everybody else's fault that this happened to him, my hunch is that he will be posting something like this in someone else's product forum.

Bob Bone

What are you using for delta copying?

I've been looking at some of the open source backup solutions, none of the pay ones have delta copy for some reason.

Having a good backup with delta would mean I could move all my external backup drives to my file server so I don't have to deal with the constant spinning down that are built into them, it drives me insane.

Hansenhaus


The OP is probably a troll but the lesson that should be learned from this thread is ALWAYS use AUTO SAVE. It has saved my butt many times over. Especially when I do something to a mix I can't reverse like accidentally holding the CTRL key without a quick group selected and moving a fader. All the faders end up moving and there is no way to undo that level of damage. I just close the project and load my last auto saved version and I'm good to go. I typically have my autosave set to 5 minute intervals and 2 versions being saved. 

Eric, this is why for me, that I rely on SPECIFIC backups, as often these phantom movements don't get noticed right away, and it makes it hard to know sometimes if a particular auto-save captured everything in a good state.


In the TINY portion of my brain responsible for responsibility, the act of KNOWINGLY saving at a certain point - after completing some definite edit point cuts down on the guesswork, as I make sure that things are sounding and looking OK prior to actually hitting Save.
Again, it's whatever kind of water floats your however you made it boat - personal choice.


There are 2 common factors here: First, most of us who are buttly-retentive about backups do so because we got lazy at some point in the past and paid dearly enough for it that we don't want that to happen again, and secondly, since dearest Joe is blaming Obama and disco for his troubles and not taking ownership over not backing up he is realistically not ready to make an internal commitment to doing backups.  As such, I predict a painful future for him - even though it will be the fault of the DAW, Microsoft, Gremlins, and alien abduction.


I went to sleep at 11 last night, once my backup started, and you know what?  I feel RESTED, knowing that if the sun does not rise this morning, I can easily make it yesterday once more (thank you Karen Carpenter), and that knowledge makes that first cup of Joe (pun intended) taste better.

Bob Bone

vmw


If you come from the early days of the 1980s computing you are automatically in the save constantly  mode. As well as saving as versions, have auto-save on and use a scheduled backup program to back up all the files up to another drive.

*Raises hand* My left hand is in a constant state of ctrl+s for life.
 
-Danny

"*Raises hand* My left hand is in a constant state of ctrl+s for life. " + 10^ 1,000,000