Accidentally hidden all tracks??
It's somewhat infantile to write a post like that with no description of the possible "catastrophy".

robert_e_bone


I just use Windows Backup that is part if Windows 7.

Here is some text from a Microsoft Answers post - from a MS engineer:

"Support Engineer
Hi Southern Sunshine,
 
The backup Windows 7 follows is incremental backup. Windows Backup will add new or changed information to your subsequent backups. If you're saving your backups on a hard drive or network location, Windows Backup will create a new, full backup for you automatically when needed.
 
Refer the below links to know how Windows 7 backup and restore process works:

Back up your files:[link=http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/back-up-your-files]http://windows.microsoft....ws7/back-up-your-files[/link]

Backup and restore: frequently asked questions:[link=http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/Back-up-and-restore-frequently-asked-questions]http://windows.microsoft....uently-asked-questions[/link] 

How does Windows choose which files to back up?:[link=http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/How-does-Windows-choose-which-files-to-back-up]http://windows.microsoft....which-files-to-back-up[/link] "


It initially does the whole shooting match (full), then only the delta.  I also have it do a system image - creates an image of the Windows files needed to boot.


On my system, I have it set to run every Sunday night, at 11:00 PM, and it runs less than an hour, on average.


Bob Bone

Sorry to little coffee in me, what I meant to say was deltacopy, not delta backup. Deltacopy needs a client/server so if say you have a 2 gig file and it's only changed by a few kb's, only that part is picked out and sent across the network, client tells the server what part has changed and the destination is patched with only those bits instead of moving 2 gigs over the network.

Danny Danzi

vmw


If you come from the early days of the 1980s computing you are automatically in the save constantly  mode. As well as saving as versions, have auto-save on and use a scheduled backup program to back up all the files up to another drive.

*Raises hand* My left hand is in a constant state of ctrl+s for life.
 
-Danny

Same here, same here....

joep46


Well, it happened. The unthinkable. The horrible. The "It could never happen to me" happened.  All of my tracks, all of
them just disappeared from track view. That great searing lead line that I put down last Thursday, gone. That wonderful
syncopated synth line from last week, gone too. All my drum programming, the clever Bass line that added so much, all
gone. How could this happen to me. All the hours and hours tweaking and refining, all gone now. Sonar X2, where did we go wrong??
 
I know, I'll take complete responsibility for it.  It's all my fault. My fault for believing in you Sonar. My fault for thinking
Sonar could compete with all the other DAW's out there. Does this happen to Pro Tools users? Does this happen to
Cubase users? Something tells me I had better find out.
 
I promise myself I will never let this this happen to me again. I'm through with you my dear. I want a divorce. This is
unacceptable. This is where I draw the line. It is time for me to DUMP SONAR.  Your behavior Sonar is so unprofessional.
If you want to play in the big leagues Sonar, then you must perform worthy of that stature. You are a phony Sonar. You
deny yourself greatness by your results and your results stink. You have sunk so low that you have even lost me.
 
Dear Sonar, I can't change you, I can only change me. So that is where I stand. My last stand. Goodbye.

Every DAW has issues, and every update/upgrade of every DAW has issues. I know, I pretty much have used them all at one point or another on both Mac and PC. In 2007 I migrated full time to PC music production and started music Sonar. It's been the best and most productive music software I've ever used and I've owned two turn key Pro-Tools TDM systems (digidesign is a nightmare if ever there was one - you don't know pain, until your deep into digidesign). 

So, good luck and may you find the right software for you, but I imagine that you will experience similar if not worse frustrations with whatever software you chose. My suggestion is to pick a horse and ride it. You're almost always better learning the quirks of one software really well, than jumping around. 


But than again, I've jumped ship on Pro-Tools, Logic, Cubase, Live and Digital Performer... Sometimes I contemplate going back to Cubase, but then I read their user forums and decide I'm better off where I am... You might also want to go to some platform agnostic sites like Gearslutz and see what those users say... plenty of frustrating experiences on ALL DAWs...


YMMV... 

chuckebaby


in the original statment of the op,i cant believe he says its his fault for trusting sonar...lol
projects just dont disapear man.

It's amazing - the project just totally disappeared right after he hit the delete key in Windows Explorer.

Another thing to consider:  I have an Acronis partition so if I have to restore my C and D drives completely--as in the case of a bad virus--I can.  If you take an image with Acronis everytime you do any major software installs plus save your files to an external drive, you should be able to survive almost anything, although I can tell you from experience that restoring can be a little painful (messed up settings, etc.).

I've dumped Sonar too.  Dumped X1 for X2    LOL

I always backup, but I had a recent problem with X2.  I did a new take with a take lane for the vocal.  The new take lane was made the vocal track and the project saved.  The next time I accessed the project (about 4 days later) the vocal track had the audio waveform in it but the vocal track was "empty" as I did a bounce to track from the vocal track to a new track and the new track was blank.  Looking at the project, on the hard drive Audio folder there was no vocal track.   Fortunately I had a back up and was able to recover.  I always backup the project(s) to a different hard drive after every recording session.  I also do Acronis True Image full hard drive backups (I don't use incremental). 

and MY sonar X2 will just put ALL channel pro EQ´s to zero ,after I have almost finished my project ?????

This killed now 2 PROJECTS !


PLS ??? DAF%&%& !?

Troll.

Love your animated pic.

Good call on the batch command.

There are so MANY ways to have good outcomes from backing up, and MORE BAD outcomes if you don't.

Bob Bone

ROBOCOPY  is better, but has more confusing switches.  I think XCOPY runs out of gas with v large files (~1Gb or so).  So if your files are in the Mb range, XCOPY should do the job.  

I don't use any special program when I copy projects to a separate drive.  Just the built in Windows copy/paste.  I make a folder for each recording project and name it "bill 2012"  or whatever.  Then I copy the "bill 2012" (for example) folder to the separate hard drive.  If this is an update (changes) in the project(s) in the folder, I first delete the old backup folder on the target drive then do the paste to the second hard drive.  That is one copy backup.  I also do frequent (nightly if there have been recording projects) Acronis True Image full hard drive backups to a separate "acronis backup" hard drive.  That may seem like overkill but that produces the "original" and 2 backup copies.  If Murphy's Law comes into play and the original hard drive and one of the other backup drives fails as the same time there is still the 3rd copy.

There is only 10 weeks until Chrstmas 


Just keep that in mind 

I am going out dancing as soon as my gout is more better 

robert_e_bone


Good point.  I myself do not use auto-save, because I like to know precisely where I was when a save took place.

It took me a while to figure out auto-save does not override (or overwrite) anything you do. For example, if you're working on SongVersion7.cwp, it will remain undisturbed. A new copy called "Auto-save copy of Songversion7.cwp" will be created when auto-save kicks in. You can always revert back to what you saved, but if you hadn't saved recently and there's a power failure or whatever, you'll be happy Sonar created a newer copy.


As to the OP, I'm sorry, but trusting a piece of metal spinning at 7200 or 10000 RPM that was delivered via a truck subjecting it to more Gs than you'd like, and using parts from the lowest bidder...well, you know the rest. Doing work on a computer without making backups is asking for trouble, and you can be guaranteed to receive it, sooner or later.