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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/02 20:45:51 (permalink)
P:
Very nice work.  Given your formidable skills and vision ... I have an idea of a feature I'd love to see that seems consistent with the feature set you are working on.  Let me know  and I'll pick your brain.

Best, and again great work

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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/02 20:50:44 (permalink)
Tell me more about your idea?
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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/02 21:50:33 (permalink)
Oh oh if Dom and Panup get together we're going to see a new X1.

All I want is a compose button.

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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/02 22:03:40 (permalink)
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Oh oh if Dom and Panup get together we're going to see a new X1.

All I want is a compose button.

Great idea, John. I'll include some universal melodies in the far future version of our X1.
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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/03 18:28:50 (permalink)
panup, this is excellent!  Where can we find this when it's ready?

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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/03 19:03:13 (permalink)
Project has just started... I'm coding it 6-10 hours every day after my normal studio days but I can't promise anything.  There are some major problems that may cause harm in other systems, for example the way Microsoft has arranged 32 and 64 bit registry access for a x86 program in x64 environment. A bit technical speak but in clear English there are things to solve...

post edited by panup - 2011/08/21 21:15:06
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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/03 19:13:04 (permalink)
Added features yesterday & today:
- Colors: added 8 custom colors, saved automatically
- Added Instrument Definition browser. Currently read-only, edit coming.
- Most programming is still building internal framework.


post edited by panup - 2011/08/15 09:51:25
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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/03 19:21:03 (permalink)
Man oh man oh man.   Will Christmas never end?

You and Ben should get the annual great forum member award. You two have my vote. 

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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/03 19:43:04 (permalink)
Outstanding!  This looks like total control not before seen in any version of SONAR!

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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/03 19:52:55 (permalink)
Most difficult parts are yet to come and that's why development will slow down: I fear I have to find out internal ID's of all the Key Bindings manually by entering a binding in SONAR and then looking the stored code. Fortunately it's 'once in a lifetime' job and will let me make Key Bindings searchable by the function name... that's a feature I've been Feature Requesting a long time ago. I guess there are others, too, who have wished this feature for years.

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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/04 04:41:39 (permalink)
let me make Key Bindings searchable by the function name... that's a feature I've been Feature Requesting a long time ago. I guess there are others, too, who have wished this feature for years.


Abso-bloody-lutely!!!!

Excellent work panup!

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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/04 08:13:29 (permalink)
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Most difficult parts are yet to come and that's why development will slow down: I fear I have to find out internal ID's of all the Key Bindings manually by entering a binding in SONAR and then looking the stored code. Fortunately it's 'once in a lifetime' job and will let me make Key Bindings searchable by the function name... that's a feature I've been Feature Requesting a long time ago. I guess there are others, too, who have wished this feature for years.


Simply AMAZING... the work you put into this.  Thank you :)
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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/04 21:32:11 (permalink)

News of the day:
- I'm building Path view from scratch using Grid View. Key word: FLEXIBLE.  Currently it's just showing the paths but I'll add rename & move & other goodies before going public.
- Added window to show SONAR, Dimension Pro and Rapture serials. Easy to copy & paste whenever they're needed.
- I tested Windows 8 style tiles in the main window but I did not get thrilled. I went back to 80's and made C-64 style console. I'll add commands for most common tasks after I've learned what they are.  Console is not mandatory - you don't need to use it at all and it can be minimized to save screen estate.
post edited by panup - 2011/08/21 21:15:32
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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/04 22:11:38 (permalink)
Today I put some serious time to make my utility ready for the future SONAR versions. All important paths, folder and registry key names program needs are configurable. If I leave them hard-coded and stop support it's still possible for users to configure program for X2, X3 and X4 (unless CW changes program dramatically).

I made some very preliminary tests of reading CWP file. I can at least extract SONAR version the project was made but I try to extract some other data, too, like File Info, used plug-ins etc. CWP is not documented anywhere and thus I'm not sure if this is going to lead anywhere.

I had an idea of automatic sonarmods installer / uninstaller bundled in the utility and launch buttons to start SONAR using different themes.

Recent Files list could contain some fixed entries or it could be completely restored to earlier state. What for? Imagine you run commercial studio and you record a band. Next day there's another customer. Later the first band comes back. It would be handy if Last Files could be saved & restored because then it would be easier to jump into the project files. 

After SONAR has crashed Deep could search the last used CWP and add it to the Recent Files list. SONAR can't do it and CW does not see this feature as important as I do (Feature Request sent long time ago).


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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/04 22:26:30 (permalink)
Lynn


You and Benstat should be on the payroll.

No, they should start there own company! :)
 
Truely amazing. Can't wait!
 
Brandon, unofficially, what do you think of this?

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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/04 22:38:42 (permalink)
Panup you embarrass us(me).  You make me feel slovenly.

I really like the ideas you have. I too can't wait for it.

Like is too weak of a word. Its more a fantastic sort of wow.

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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/04 22:42:31 (permalink)
Added window to show SONAR, Dimension Pro and Rapture serials. Easy to copy & paste whenever they're needed.

 
Is there anyway to make this for all installed plugins as well? This is a great idea.
 
I hope you keep updating the forums with your progress. It's like taking a class in programming. I love it!

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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/04 22:46:27 (permalink)
I made some very preliminary tests of reading CWP file. I can at least extract SONAR version the project was made but I try to extract some other data, too, like File Info, used plug-ins etc.

 
Another great idea.
 
Anyone who wants to right now can goto panups site http://www.sonarmods.com/

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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/04 22:52:11 (permalink)
After SONAR has crashed Deep could search the last used CWP and add it to the Recent Files list. SONAR can't do it and CW does not see this feature as important as I do (Feature Request sent long time ago).

 
Haha! That's because CW doesn't acknowledge that Sonar crashes... :)

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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/05 19:03:24 (permalink)
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Added window to show SONAR, Dimension Pro and Rapture serials. Easy to copy & paste whenever they're needed.
 
Is there anyway to make this for all installed plugins as well? This is a great idea.
 
Not anything straightforward because serial numbers are around the registry and files in various places.
I can add more serials if someone tells me how to find it in the registry.
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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/05 19:21:35 (permalink)
John

I really like the ideas you have. I too can't wait for it.
Patience, please!   There are so many steps to climb from an idea to a tested program...
Utility that tweaks system registry must be reliable and I have to test it myself in several setups before letting it go public!
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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/05 19:56:44 (permalink)
panup,

take your time we can wait. We just like going along for the ride so keep the updates coming and remember to go at your own pace and to not feel pressured from the group.

Now hurry up! (and thanks)

:)

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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/05 20:35:57 (permalink)
OK, I keep on writing news :-).
Today: no news (is good news?) except that my main pulldown menu got corrupted and I'm wondering how to get it back.

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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/05 20:42:20 (permalink)
I made additions to the xml... now it's up to date and reflects perfectly my design! :-)
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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/05 21:03:13 (permalink)
EDIT: Post deleted.
post edited by panup - 2011/08/15 09:52:08
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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/10 21:49:51 (permalink)
eep Newsletter

- Added Automatic Crossfades Toolbar to Deep. It changes SONAR's Crossafades state in real-time and gives visual feedback of the status just like legacy SONAR versions.
- You can choose Crossafade types in Crossafade Button's Context Menu.
- More toolbar items are under investigation. SONARPlus is there already anyway.
- Added Registry Import
- Adde Registry Export for Colors, Key Bindings, Screensets and Recent File List.
- Moved Deep's Preferences to File Menu and removed Edit Menu.
- Added SONAR's Recent File List to Deep. Paths are checked and invalid entries are marked for removal.
- Coming: save and recall Recent File Lists
- Coming: add permanent entries to Recent File List (ment for studio owners who make their first album 10 years)


- Console View: added right-click context menu  and a few items. I use Deep as SONAR's Frontend. I tested that Deep can launch SONAR Plus which launches X1. They all work together perfectly :-).
- Console View: there are already over 20 commands for those who prefer to use keyboard rather than mouse. For example, you can launch the first Recent File List project by command "1". Sonar starts by typing "SONAR", "S", "DAW" etc.   X ON turns Automatic crossfades on. X OFF turns them off. X? shows the current status.


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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/10 22:08:20 (permalink)
I'd suggest a Paypal account as well..you are doing a lot of good work here....geeesh!!!!

The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate.

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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/10 22:11:09 (permalink)
OK, I'll make a new, shining Donate button for... ;-) But first I got to finish the utility!
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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/10 22:22:41 (permalink)
Sorry, everyone, but modders such as Panup are not allowed to accept money, even as 'donations' for their mods. This is because they are modifying property that is not theirs and do not have the right to redistribute it in any way.

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Re:Deep SONAR Preferences utility (teaser) 2011/08/10 22:26:10 (permalink)
Just curious Seth.  Is that a direct quote from your legal department?  I'm a complete dumbass when it comes to that sort of thing.  So, folks can't even donate money to Panup?

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