The Kiosk Project

rick7653

 

Who asked you? If you don't have something constructive to say about the problem then why even bother to open your pie hole?

Sorry Rick, but this is a forum, you know, a place where people can come and respectfully air their knowledge / views / opinions. Leapinlizard actually was making a very valid point. I have used Sonar since Version 6, like you, on three different machines, had the problem you experience on the first one, and figured out what the problem was with my rig, made the neccesary changes, and never experienced the problems again.
 
I hope that is constructive enough for you

alexoosthoek


You should not have to live with crashes and dropouts.

Pls list your systems specs.

johnnyV


ASIO for ALL ?? well that's a well known issue right thar! My first go round with freeze ups turned out to be from using ASIO for all.  Oh I see thats just worded almost like?? OK your good..

Robomusic


One think to think about here Rick, With computers like Toshiba and HP, and Compac, Dell, you name it. They do come with a ton of bloatware on them, and removing that stuff can sometimes screw with the rest of the system. It can cause untold issues internally.

i have an HP system that by all rights shoul dsmoke my old home built, but when i try to remove all the crap installed by the system it never runs right. I slicked it and installed  a clean version of XP, and it never would work properly, until i reinstalled teh old HP OS with all the crap. So i just use it as a home computer, and stay with the old dog that runs clean, it never had any bloatware as i built it from scratch.

No idea if that is the cause, but i would be suspect.

Mack


There are really two issues here.  Issue one is that actual tuning problems with Dimension Pro.  Everyone knows about that.  The real problem is issue two.  Cakewalk has remained stone cold silent about it.  That is what most concerns me.  I would rather they be upfront and say that they are not going to fix the problems, because it would be too costly and that Dimension Pro is not in their future plans, if that is the case.  Customers deserve better than this.
Mack

rick7653

Robomusic


One think to think about here Rick, With computers like Toshiba and HP, and Compac, Dell, you name it. They do come with a ton of bloatware on them, and removing that stuff can sometimes screw with the rest of the system. It can cause untold issues internally.

i have an HP system that by all rights shoul dsmoke my old home built, but when i try to remove all the crap installed by the system it never runs right. I slicked it and installed  a clean version of XP, and it never would work properly, until i reinstalled teh old HP OS with all the crap. So i just use it as a home computer, and stay with the old dog that runs clean, it never had any bloatware as i built it from scratch.

No idea if that is the cause, but i would be suspect.

I didnt remove any toshiba system bloatware. Just the microsoft demos, msn network all the usual non essential crap. I kept everything related to the machine install. Also spoke to someone at toshiba who is actually a DAW user and he tells me even if I buy a new version of windows 7 it will run fine on that model. The mobo on this unit uses a chipset with common to find drivers. He tells me it should run fine without even removing the bloatware and that either the drivers from toshiba or the win 7 native drivers will work the same. As I said same problem on 3 different machines with clean installs every time including my I7 desktop. Did the same thing with xp and with windows 7. Same exact problem on both os'es

SilkTone

rick7653


Im about to have too much time on my hands. I may just tackle this thing and go and tune ALL the samples in my dim pro. If I do I will post a download location for the fixed files in case anybody wants them. I have had a tremendous amount of help from this board for the most part and would like to give something back. Will post at a later date after i tweak this thang.

Thanks again to the helpful.

I don't believe Dim pro has a per-sample tune capability, right? Which makes it impossible to fix the problem without resorting to manually fixing the samples via some external means. I actually ran into a similar problem with SampleTank, where some of the instrumets had some notes that were out of tune, and no way to fix it. The best I could do was adjust the global tune setting to get the range of keys I was using to be more or less centered.

FastBikerBoy


I don't use Dim Pro a great deal so I can't say I've experienced the tuning issues. I have been using Sonar though since V2. I don't upgrade every version IIRC I've gone 2,4,5,7 up to my current 8.3.1.

I'm only a hobbyist so I'm not using it 24/7 but when I do use it it's usually for fairly long periods at a time. Yesterday for example I was swapping between tracking one song and rough mixing another from about 7.30am through to just after 5pm.

Not one crash, hiccup or anything else. In fact the only time I've had problems with Sonar crashing was pre Windows 7 x64 when my old Alesis Multimix drivers would occasionally blue screen on me.

I don't have great experience with other music software, I have Cubase LE installed and have had a quick look at it but didn't really gel with it. Mainly because I'm used to Sonar not a reflection on Cubase. But I'm happy with what I've got so I've no need to look elsewhere.

My point is as a lowly hobbyist I have a computer that is perfectly stable with Sonar and probably any other of the software names quoted above. I do maintain and build computers (in a non-audio environment) so build my own and this advice.......

"Jim Roseberry"
If that's the case, I'd *highly* recommend taking a methodical trouble-shooting approach to resolving the problem.
If your rig is that unstable, there's an underlying reason why.  That issue will follow no matter which DAW software you choose to use.

is the best advice on here, if only to avoid disappointment with your chosen Sonar replacement.

Saintom


Out of curiosity, wouldn't adjusting the pitch wheel a bit put Dimension Pro back in tune?

I ask this because one of my clients I noticed that when he track that sometimes he would move the pitch wheel a bit, and during editing I deleted the pitch cc's and it was out of tune, I put them back in and it sounded right.

curious minds want to know, Thanks

Tom

SilkTone


This is interesting... I just looked at some of the .sfz files in the Dim pro folder, and it seems as if some of the basses have already been tuned (or at least an attempt was made to tune them). This is typical (from the Acoustic Upright f fx.sfz file):

<region> sample=Acoustic Upright Bass\Acb1_med_D1_01.wav key=d2 lokey=bb1 tune=-7
<region> sample=Acoustic Upright Bass\Acb1_med_E1_01.wav key=e2 lokey=d#2 hikey=f2 tune=16
<region> sample=Acoustic Upright Bass\Acb1_med_G1_01.wav key=g2 lokey=f#2 hikey=g#2 tune=16
<region> sample=Acoustic Upright Bass\Acb1_med_Bb1_03.wav key=bb2 lokey=a2 hikey=b2 tune=-12