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2015/10/28 12:46:22 (permalink)

Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates?

I still haven't taken the plunge for Sonar Platinum yet.  I thought I would have done it sooner, but to me, it just has too many features that I don't think I will use. 
 
What about the rest of you Sonar users, especially the Platinum users.  Do you feel as though SPLAT is overwhelming?

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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 12:58:29 (permalink)
    To me it was more overwhelming to get all of the updates at once in a single annual release.
Now I get 30 days to grasp a few new features. Some of them have become indispensable like.
Drum Re-placer, Vocal Sync and the new track routing. I'm enjoying the new start screen also. 
   I'm almost ready to finish some mixes. I'm anxious to check out the VST up-sampling function. 
  

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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 13:00:13 (permalink)
Too many features? You do know you need only use the ones you want to. However Mix Recall or the new Patch Points or Drum Replacer or Vocal Sync are useful to many here. I also like the improvements to the PRV. Actually the list is quite long but not something that gets in the way. Take what you need and leave the rest for another time. It'l be there when you need it. 
 
Because they come monthly one doesn't feel overwhelmed.   

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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 13:05:26 (permalink)
For an underwhelming experience simply update every six months rather than once a month. Choice is yours.

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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 13:06:33 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby charlyg 2015/10/29 10:19:04
I think it is a good model. Maintaining current features and being proactive for new ones is essential to the survival of any product. I agree though, for every ten new features I’ll probably use 6, maybe 7. But those used have significant meaning to me.  

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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 13:07:34 (permalink)
I am leaning towards Mixcraft Pro 7 for the future .
Simple to use and it Is flawless up to now.Such an easy program to use without all the fuss.
I am certainly not paying another £100  for things I do not need.
I will stay with Sonar Pro and Christmas Is where It stops.
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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 13:09:04 (permalink)
I don't have the same amount of studio time every month and personally really dislike the multitude of updates. I have to add that I also have a slew of third party software and sometimes it feels like every time I work I have to update a ton of stuff first. I can obviously skip one or two but that only postpones the problem. My main concern is that so far every new release has come with SOME bugs. They're usually not big but it becomes pretty hard to judge whether or not one will be a problem for me and I don't like rolling the dice every month.

I think I'm going to skip updates until my year is up unless there is something I really can't do without.
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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 13:16:35 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tagruvto 2015/10/29 12:08:44
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My main concern is that so far every new release has come with SOME bugs. They're usually not big but it becomes pretty hard to judge whether or not one will be a problem for me and I don't like rolling the dice every month.



This is something I don't quite understand. It takes only a few minutes to update, and even less time to roll back. Any bugs usually affect only a limited number of people, so there's really nothing to be lost by updating, then if you encounter a bug that actually affects your work, rolling back to a previous version.
 
As to the general topic of being overwhelmed, I have yet to see a serious DAW that didn't have an overwhelming feature set. But, just because you own a car doesn't mean you have to drive every road...you drive on the roads that take you someplace you need to go. 

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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 13:33:00 (permalink)
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 Do you feel as though SPLAT is overwhelming?

No, I feel opposite.
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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 13:38:24 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Jesse G 2015/10/29 12:16:04
I kind of did at first but that was simply due to my need to "KNOW ALL THE THINGS!!!"
 
Throughout the year though it's become apparent that the Baker's aren't really changing much of anything. The core of the program is X3 (an undoubtably popular and stable incarnation) and all this new stuff is exactly that... new stuff that doesn't screw with the main X3 foundation. You can use the new stuff or not use it but it's there when and if you decide you want/need to.
 
The only exceptions to the "it's just X3" premise would be the new Control Bar (which is super easy to figure out and WAY better) and the new PRV stuff which has seemingly remained the same since it was initially implemented (with necessary fixes). Everything else can be safely ignored unless you go out of your way to use it.
 
I've only updated SPlat I think 2 (maybe 3) times and am about to do so again to get at the track to track stuff. I've mostly been doing things as I have been since X3 but occasionally reach out to the new tools because they were useful for what I'm working on (for example I'm about to use Drum Replacer for the first time).
 
Also I find it BETTER with these monthly releases of new stuff because, due to my personal laid back update method, I get a chance to really let the possibilities sink in and see how everyone is using/liking new stuff. The monthly eZines was a great idea. I read through them (and download/store them with my manuals) to get an idea of what's up and how things apply to my work. This all makes it much easier to use these things once I actually DO something with them.
 
Before when it all got dumped in our laps once a year (AND with massive changes to how the core program worked) it took at least a couple months to catch up. Now once I do get around to installing the updates/using the new stuff I already know what's going on and my work isn't disrupted really at all. I just have some cool extra options.
 
I haven't really been nailed by any of the "bugs" or problems either because if I see a ton of people complaining about stuff here I just write off that version and wait to see what the next one brings. Looks like JP is probably a good version to snag and squat on. The only complaints I've seen were in regards to specific third party plugins that I don't use and over the top routing issues that can be avoided (and the Bakers said they're working on).
 
Much more protection and choice IMO with the new model I think and really no reason to be overwhelmed because nothing new seems to get in the way of old workflows (if you are already used to X3 or Sonar 2015 anyway).
 
There were some stumbles at first but this does all seem to have been thought out rather well and humming along quite nicely now.
 
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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 14:10:46 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby lingyai 2015/10/28 23:23:34
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My main concern is that so far every new release has come with SOME bugs. They're usually not big but it becomes pretty hard to judge whether or not one will be a problem for me and I don't like rolling the dice every month.



This is something I don't quite understand. It takes only a few minutes to update, and even less time to roll back. Any bugs usually affect only a limited number of people, so there's really nothing to be lost by updating, then if you encounter a bug that actually affects your work, rolling back to a previous version.
 
As to the general topic of being overwhelmed, I have yet to see a serious DAW that didn't have an overwhelming feature set. But, just because you own a car doesn't mean you have to drive every road...you drive on the roads that take you someplace you need to go. 


That's easy to say, Craig, but you don't always notice bugs right away, sometimes they mess with your save files, sometimes they are seemingly small things where you don't understand right away what is going wrong. This is nothing new and happened during previous versions as well. It's just that right now every month brings another "I hope it works".

I don't mean to belittle Cake's intent or efforts with this new system. But the question was posed and for ME new updates all the time can be perhaps not overwhelming but at least disruptive to my workflow. Even though I love some of the new features. I'd just rather not have my DAW be like my phone or iPad like that.
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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 14:29:31 (permalink)
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That's easy to say, Craig, but you don't always notice bugs right away, sometimes they mess with your save files, sometimes they are seemingly small things where you don't understand right away what is going wrong. This is nothing new and happened during previous versions as well. It's just that right now every month brings another "I hope it works".

I don't mean to belittle Cake's intent or efforts with this new system. But the question was posed and for ME new updates all the time can be perhaps not overwhelming but at least disruptive to my workflow. Even though I love some of the new features. I'd just rather not have my DAW be like my phone or iPad like that.



I was actually WAY more pissed with the "what you get is what you get" approach to bugs with the yearly release model. I almost bailed after the X2 fiasco (and think I nearly got banned from the forum).
 
Things ain't perfect (what is?) and there are a couple of minor things I've noticed that have creeped in but all in all those were MUCH darker days than we have now.
 
Seriously it seemed every session resulted in a crash with X2. Since X3 that is a rarity and I have a much easier time recovering from any problems that arise. Mostly the things that screw me up these days in the program are design issues that I can only hope will be corrected as time goes on. I've already seen large swaths of design defiencies get wiped away in the past year or so.
 
IDK... I'm much happier now. I know that's not the case for everyone but it means the world to me because I can actually WORK without wanting to launch the tower through a wall.
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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 15:12:05 (permalink)
I like the current model. I just wish I could get an e-mail alert when new updates have dropped.
 
I'm some of you get e-mails from Cake, but I don't. I've registered a dozen times to receive e-mail alerts, and gone through all the options in my profile - but for some reason, Cakewalk doesn't want me to know about new products unless I come here first. THAT is what ticks me off about the update model.

 
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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 15:18:34 (permalink)
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[That's easy to say, Craig, but you don't always notice bugs right away, sometimes they mess with your save files

 
Just curious, have there been incidents where some bug caused problems with saved files? I don't recall seeing anything about saves in the forums other than people having issues trying to open old Bundles. If you open a SONAR project with an older version of SONAR it ignores new features, so that might be a simple solution if this indeed happens to someone. 
 
sometimes they are seemingly small things where you don't understand right away what is going wrong.

 
I can definitely see that ("Is it me or is it SONAR?") but you don't have to try and troubleshoot the problem. If doing the same thing worked before, just roll back.

I don't mean to belittle Cake's intent or efforts with this new system. But the question was posed and for ME new updates all the time can be perhaps not overwhelming but at least disruptive to my workflow. Even though I love some of the new features. I'd just rather not have my DAW be like my phone or iPad like that.



Well, you're preaching to the converted on one level because I haven't upgraded my MacBook Pro to El Capitan, or my phone to iOS 9 yet , so I know where you're coming from...but I have upgraded my iPad, because I don't use it for business. It's very convenient to be able to "test" an upgrade on the non-mission critical stuff before applying it to something that really matters to my work, but that's basically what rolling back/forward lets me do.
 
I'm also in the camp of finding it easier overall to have my workflow disrupted a little bit once a month compared to a major disruption every year. I think the main argument in favor of a yearly big disruption was that you could have the old and new versions installed side-by-side. 
 

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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 15:21:15 (permalink)
I don't update on D-day for every release, but I usually make it before the month is up.  It is a good system since you can update when you have the time and/or when a project is finished.  I, personally, don't feel guilty about not being up to the minute on it.  More choice is better, to update or not to update, it ain't hardly a question worth fardling over.
 
And, as pointed out by Craig and others, you get a get out of jail card with rollbacks.  Granted, the bug you don't know about may the one that will kill you (or a project, anyway), but the odds are low and in your favor.  I used to buy Ampex 456 tape since that was what pros used and sounded great, only to find out it is the worst offender for shedding all these years later.  If you want surety, die.
 
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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 15:22:34 (permalink)
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I like the current model. I just wish I could get an e-mail alert when new updates have dropped.
 
I'm some of you get e-mails from Cake, but I don't. I've registered a dozen times to receive e-mail alerts, and gone through all the options in my profile - but for some reason, Cakewalk doesn't want me to know about new products unless I come here first. THAT is what ticks me off about the update model.



Check the notifications on the start screen from time to time. Meanwhile, any chance it's aggressive spam filtering?

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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 15:35:50 (permalink)
This checking is the issue. E-mail about update comes a few days after update available.
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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 15:44:33 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby lingyai 2015/10/28 23:26:09
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[That's easy to say, Craig, but you don't always notice bugs right away, sometimes they mess with your save files

 
Just curious, have there been incidents where some bug caused problems with saved files? I don't recall seeing anything about saves in the forums other than people having issues trying to open old Bundles. If you open a SONAR project with an older version of SONAR it ignores new features, so that might be a simple solution if this indeed happens to someone. 
 
sometimes they are seemingly small things where you don't understand right away what is going wrong.

 
I can definitely see that ("Is it me or is it SONAR?") but you don't have to try and troubleshoot the problem. If doing the same thing worked before, just roll back.


I don't mean to belittle Cake's intent or efforts with this new system. But the question was posed and for ME new updates all the time can be perhaps not overwhelming but at least disruptive to my workflow. Even though I love some of the new features. I'd just rather not have my DAW be like my phone or iPad like that.


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Well, you're preaching to the converted on one level because I haven't upgraded my MacBook Pro to El Capitan, or my phone to iOS 9 yet , so I know where you're coming from...but I have upgraded my iPad, because I don't use it for business. It's very convenient to be able to "test" an upgrade on the non-mission critical stuff before applying it to something that really matters to my work, but that's basically what rolling back/forward lets me do.
 
I'm also in the camp of finding it easier overall to have my workflow disrupted a little bit once a month compared to a major disruption every year. I think the main argument in favor of a yearly big disruption was that you could have the old and new versions installed side-by-side. 
 


I recall an issue where some plugin states weren't recalled correctly. I can't say for sure that it was in the way Sonar saved things. But my point was that I'd only notice it after hours of work and upon RETURNING to a project.

I really just don't like the whole jiggamarole monthly instead of yearly (or three times a year with patch fixes). X2 wasn't as unstable for me as for some and X3 was on the whole very good. Every patch fixed a number of small known issues and for the most part didn't introduce new issues. Sorry if I don't feel the installing and rolling back is more comfortable. It makes me feel like a beta tester and I want to be making music. No matter what you say, it disrupts the process and it's not just the rolling back but also the time spent figuring out what's up, possibly cleaning up the mess etc.
I just find it uncomfortable. YMMV.
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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 15:46:42 (permalink)
On occasion I do feel as if I am spending too much time teching than playing! I do like the way things are going since the change though.

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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 16:08:31 (permalink)
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Sorry if I don't feel the installing and rolling back is more comfortable.



This statement right here is something I agree with whole heartedly... especially as an "offline/manual" installer. I have not, and hopefully will never have to, "rollback". I kind of don't trust the process (like what happens to all the new files and you just KNOW that a rollback ain't gonna put things back EXACTLY as they were beforehand).
 
I'm not even sure how that would work without the CCC anyway (offline). Fortunately I've never had to do it so far but as I said I've only updated SPlat a few times since I got it. I've had pretty good luck with it so far but obviously I'm here on the forum ALL the time to keep an eye on what's up.
 
I kind of figure though that anyone who is more vigilant on updating to the latest version as soon as it comes out (which is much more than I do) would be able to pop into the forum and check out the goings ons. I would say anyone concerned about it who doesn't have the time to scour the forum as some of us do could post a thread asking for the good, bad and ugly on a a release (and all those since their last update). I've done that and gotten the skinny pretty quick.
 
Then I just make a decision as to whether the problem(s) outweigh the benefits based on my own needs. Of course a good place to look for those who are concerned is the Problem Reports area of the site which I think is a brilliant idea and should be used/referenced more.
 
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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 16:17:44 (permalink)
I have exercised the beHeyZeus out of the CCC update and rollback functions to the point that I have complete confidence in them.
 
I always update within a few days of a new release. 

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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 16:51:32 (permalink)
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I still haven't taken the plunge for Sonar Platinum yet.  I thought I would have done it sooner, but to me, it just has too many features that I don't think I will use. 
 
What about the rest of you Sonar users, especially the Platinum users.  Do you feel as though SPLAT is overwhelming?


Just curious,which features?
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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 17:09:56 (permalink)
I think it's a good program getting the updates monthly.  It gives you the chance to explore them without being over whelmed.  I don't use a lot of the updated features in my current work but they are available if I need them.  Some of the new features have been utilized in many of my current projects.  Let's just say my tool box is growing and I can handle any type of project.  Hats off to the Bakers !
 
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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 17:27:50 (permalink)
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I am leaning towards Mixcraft Pro 7 for the future .
Simple to use and it Is flawless up to now.Such an easy program to use without all the fuss.
I am certainly not paying another £100  for things I do not need.
I will stay with Sonar Pro and Christmas Is where It stops.
 I can see the future with Keyboards like Kontact which will use software to It's full.
All the best
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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 17:30:50 (permalink)
As far as features,I would say it needs more,:)I agree with craig,I dont understand thinking a daw should have less.But there are things that need to happen,but some wont,and others who knows when
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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 17:40:23 (permalink)
For me....... I like it the way it is.  I guess my logic is that it is easier for me to digest the changes in smaller bits than to have to deal with all of them at once. Yes, there are  some features that I don't use even after I have explored them a bit but that's no different than sorting through a larger annual update.  I also feel that the CCC update process has been very solid (knock wood) as I have never had any kind of a problem with any of the updates.  Let the good times roll.......

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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 17:48:30 (permalink)
I'll never complain about too many features/functions.  To me, that's like saying I'll stick with Notepad because LibreOffice is too feature rich.
 
I'm actually as happy about the performance enhancements and bug fixes.  The improvement in my experience today compared to X3e a year ago is well worth the $$ IMO.

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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 19:01:24 (permalink)
Personally I don't think SPLAT nor it's new monthly update model are overwhelming.
I actually am very fond of the notion that I can try new features out monthly without having to buy a whole new DAW.
Although I initially thought the new features would be things I probably wouldn't use, I've found many of them are now included in my workflow and that's encouraged me to look more creatively at how I compose, mix and master.
I used X2 and X3e all without any major blips.  For the most part, my system was pretty stable.
SPLAT is just as stable and the CCC seems to work fine.  The new update to the Smart Screen has really helped.
 
the only drawback that I can see (so far) with monthly updates is that 3rd party tutorial services like Groove 3 can't keep up!
But we do have our resident expert Craig and the added information the Bakers provide with the Ezines to keep us up on ways to best utilize what we have thus far. 

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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 19:16:48 (permalink)
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones. I have installed each update soon after it is available. I have had no glitches that I am aware of. As for being overwhelmed, I delve into the new features that interest me, and ignore the rest until I have the time, need, or interest to learn them.
 
Mixcraft was briefly mentioned. I also own Mixcraft 7pro and it is a fine piece of software from an ease of use standpoint.
However it is nowhere near as deep and sophisticated as Sonar. And I find Mixcraft's console view much less flexible and less pleasant to work with than Sonar's.

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Re: Do the Sonar Platinum users feel overwhelmed with all of the updates? 2015/10/28 19:22:26 (permalink)
I think this is one of those situations where there are no "right" or "wrong" answers, different people have different priorities, different rates of assimilating knowledge, different types of projects, etc. This is why Cakewalk structured the membership program the way they did...people could update whenever they wanted, to whatever version they wanted, return to a previous version, etc.
 
The thinking behind this was a) people might want to delay an update if they're in the middle of a big project, b) some people might want to update when they had free time, which could be weeks or months or lots of months, and c) if there was some kind of compatibility issue, like plug-ins that worked only with older versions of Windows, SONAR could roll back to the version that was current at the time of that OS.
 
So I really don't see how anyone is inconvenienced by the current structure, it gives more choices (and more frequent bug fixes) than the once-a-year-big-update approach.

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