The Band19
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Do they all really listen?
If someone comments, "Good job", And then, "Way to go", And then, "I liked it", And then, "It blew me away" Etc... On multiple songs, I'm not saying? I'm just asking... "Is it possible that they didn't really listen? But rather merely pasted in some canned responses? In an effort on many different threads to make it look as though they were contributing?" It's a hypothetical? I'm Not implicating anyone, merely posing a Christmas question? Merry Christmas everyone!! Really, I care about you all, I like you, way to go, good job, etc.. and all that other Holiday stuff. And if you read or respond to this thought? WAY TO GO! REALLY LIKED YOUR RESPONSE! YOU ROCK ON! THAT WAS NICE OF YOU TO SAY! GOOD JOB! YOUR RESPONSE KICKED BUTT, AND YOU'RE THE BEST!!! (in advance...) ------------------- People I really enjoy who I've commented on repeatedly may get something similar.. It's also nice to get something specific on the song, the writing, and or the mix? Merry Christmas. And from left field once again, God bless us all, "every one." (Tiny Tim was a suck up...)
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2013/12/24 00:57:04
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2013/12/24 00:59:23
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Get it? It's actually easy to do... You merely comment with a canned response? Or maybe you comment off of the title? So if the title is "something Christmas? blah blah?" You say wow, what a great Christmas song (without listening) Or if the title is "Something Jesus Something" You answer "what a moving spiritual song..." You don't actually have t listen? :-) You can simply play the audience? I don't do this, I'm merely pointing out that it can be done.
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2013/12/24 01:03:07
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I don't know, Robby. I would suspect that they are, and just enjoyed the music. I can only speak for myself. If I write that I liked something, it means just that. I enjoy listening critically to a song. If I post, it means I have listened to a song at least two or three times, maybe more. What I really like is when I can offer some advice, and some of the other fine folks here offer advice, and the person working on the project applies it, and the song just turns out freaking awesome. Don't sweat it, man. It's all good.
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2013/12/24 01:03:35
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what are you up to Robby..?
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2013/12/24 01:06:33
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Covered in detail below (sorry)
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2013/12/24 01:12:27
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Sorry, farther below.
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2013/12/24 01:32:25
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Edit, (it was actually profound?) Not deep enough. Just a bit farther.
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2013/12/24 01:41:02
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I'm sure some don't listen, but many do? And for those who do not, and for those who do? It's still a Merry Christmas to all... But better to listen if you comment? That was the point of the OP. Nothing offensive intended on Christmas Eve. I hope everyone has a wonderful Christmas. My son got everything he wanted and more... I hope everyone gets everything they need! I got what I needed? Ho ho ho! (give it your best shot, every time :-) http://www.amazon.com/Caldwell-Lead-Recoil-Reducing-Rifle/dp/B0023MHZLA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1387869058&sr=8-1&keywords=lead+sled+shooting+rest It allows for precision? Like with Sonar/Cakewalk. Precision is a good thing, when tracking/editing, and or in other situations. It's always best to be precise?
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2013/12/24 04:36:05
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I also think that not everyone listen.
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2013/12/24 05:20:51
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I'm not sure I really care that much. If someone says 'good job' they might mean just that; perhaps the music isn't to their taste, perhaps they don't feel willing or able to add anything further, but they appreciate the effort. I've done it myself. I think I'd rather they did that actually, than force themselves to dissect the mix or arrangement just because they feel it's the 'done thing' I have a hard time commenting in a meaningful way on certain types of music, but it's still nice to let people know you listened.
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2013/12/24 06:44:26
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James1213 said it best. Not everyone has the skill or the will, (nor the time in my case) to write out a long dissertation every time they listen to a song. There's also the slight chance that people are reluctant to be critical on songs, mixes, etc. after experiencing the bruising of fragile egos. Either way, it's all good to me!
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2013/12/24 12:23:12
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Another thing, is be honest, but also considerate. I also think if your not into a certain genre, let people know so they can decide if that genre is what they want to be posting in here. Also, a lot of people use loop and samples to create something that sounds good to them and share, so be considerate that not everyone is instrumentally inclined, but can mix things together that sound pretty good. Others mix loops and samples and also play an instrument or two along with it and so on. Basically, we are here to learn first (from the more experienced) and also to have fun and share what we have created and enjoy one another's comment sharing and communications. Most of all, do it all with love for one another. Merry Christmas to all in the forum. Nice little recoil setup there Robbie!! Peace and Blessings, John
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2013/12/24 12:32:41
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very nice - a little too much reverb for my taste but great job ;)
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2013/12/24 12:58:02
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I have to admit, I've wondered about that before. I would like to think people listen before they comment. Although, I did see 3 or 4 in a row that a particular person commented on, and the person's posts were 2 minutes apart for all the posts. Hmmm... But you know, if people aren't going to listen, I would rather they say "good job" than "that sucked". I do think an overwhelming majority actually listen, though. Merry Christmas everybody!!! My wife's gonna let me unwrap my BFD3 tomorrow! Woohoo!!!!!
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2013/12/24 13:14:00
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theguitarplayer have fun and share what we have created and enjoy one another's comment sharing and communications. Most of all, do it all with love for one another. Merry Christmas to all in the forum.
Amen to that...
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2013/12/24 13:33:24
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Personally I listen to a most of what is posted here some I comment on others I feel this way "Sorry I just can not think of anything to say that would be in anyway useful or meaningful." I might also add "The means I liked that, it made my ears smile, it made me sit up and listen, I enjoyed it, thanks you. with some I want to add "If that upsets you well……."
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2013/12/24 16:41:35
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So.... I listen to at least 15 seconds of a song. By then I have a good handle on the quality of the mix and recording. I may throw in a few more seconds if there are lyrics.
If the song is ok I may comment "good job". Often these days I don't have as much time as I would like to review and comment as I would like to.
On occasion I hear something that grabs me or irritates me and I comment in greater detail. There are some times when I have listened through the song 3 or more times.
It all depends.
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2013/12/24 16:50:14
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I know for me, sometimes I give a response that sounds canned because so many people have already echoed my thoughts, but I still want to let the person know I listened and enjoyed. I'm guessing most of the people who comment actually listened because it just seems illogical to go through the bother of commenting to a stranger when there i nothing to be gained. It's not like this is a forum that requires one to post feedback. One can literally pop in at any time, listen and not say a word. I think mood also dictates how detailed the response is. Some of the songs here i have enjoyed most i have left the least commentary because I was tired or just simply not in the mood to write. i think James nailed it. A lot of people will listen to something that is not their cup of tea but want to acknowledge the person who made it because they understand how it is to put something out there and not get response.
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2013/12/25 08:21:13
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Merry Christmas! but hehe, I've seen that. I never figured people didn't listen- just didn't wanna rip into your mix or vocal style or inaccurate playing or what're it may be. I'm getting started listening and commenting a lot more, and I guarantee- no one will be spared from the infernal wrath of my keyboard, MWAHHAAA!
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2013/12/27 11:22:34
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If I make a comment, I've listened. Many times, someone already responded with suggestions for improvements that I don't need to duplicate, unless I feel strongly about a point. Other times, I'll be frist... In any event, most of us do this for enjoyment and love for music...don't sweat it Robby...it'll make you crazy, lol! Regards, Dan
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2013/12/27 11:33:14
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I listen and comment most of the time if I have something nice or constructive to say. If I don't like the song/genre, I just leave it alone unless it really needs obvious help. On the other hand, on this forum, there are so many good writers and players that it is hard to keep up with all of it! Happy holidays. Rimshot
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2013/12/28 13:56:42
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The Band19 If someone comments, "Good job", And then, "Way to go", And then, "I liked it", And then, "It blew me away" Etc... On multiple songs, I'm not saying? I'm just asking... "Is it possible that they didn't really listen? But rather merely pasted in some canned responses? In an effort on many different threads to make it look as though they were contributing?" It's a hypothetical? I'm Not implicating anyone, merely posing a Christmas question? Merry Christmas everyone!! Really, I care about you all, I like you, way to go, good job, etc.. and all that other Holiday stuff. And if you read or respond to this thought? WAY TO GO! REALLY LIKED YOUR RESPONSE! YOU ROCK ON! THAT WAS NICE OF YOU TO SAY! GOOD JOB! YOUR RESPONSE KICKED BUTT, AND YOU'RE THE BEST!!! (in advance...) ------------------- People I really enjoy who I've commented on repeatedly may get something similar.. It's also nice to get something specific on the song, the writing, and or the mix? Merry Christmas. And from left field once again, God bless us all, "every one." (Tiny Tim was a suck up...)
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2014/01/02 23:17:55
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I laughed my azz off when I read this post Robbie, because I've had some comments on some of my tunes where I KNOW the person didn't listen to the song, like a guy says "great background vocals" and there aren't any, LOL, and I thought to myself "why even bother commenting if you're not gonna listen?" I listen to a lot more music on this forum than I post on, because if I don't really like something or don't have something constructive to say I just don't say anything, but that's just me. Thanks for voicing something I've been thinking for a while now, made my night!
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Re: Do they all really listen?
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It's interesting to see people's thoughts and comments. There are so many excellent musicians here? And other's with excellent ears? I truly value (TRULY!) everyone's input. Different people have different perspectives and you will never hear your music as others do? This is why it is so important to have people give you "honest" "critiques" because without that? You live in an echo chamber of people saying "good job!" We all need people to say, "excuse me? you ****ed up?" I am hear to say that, and I hope others are as well? I try to do so politely... There's no need to be rude. But I also tell people when they ROCK!! Hard... Which most do? The majority who post here rock HARD! When I can offer a constructive critique? I try to do so, in a way that is "constructive" The stones said, "we all need, someone we can bleed on? And if you want it baby, you can bleed on me..." Oh and, BTW? YOU'RE ALL POSERS! YOU WISH YOU COULD BE THIS GOOD (points at self) Well "some of you" are worthy? You know who you are... :-) LOL!
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2014/01/03 08:01:28
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If I make a comment, I've listened to the tune. I'm not a musician per se, so I don't have the experience or the ear to really dig into the song or technique like others here do. That's why my comments are pretty short. If I do hear something--good or bad--I'm happy to share it, but someone else usually beats me to the punch.
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2014/01/04 08:41:21
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I listen to every song to which I comment from start to finish. Occasionally, some songs are so bad, I don't make it to the end. However, I do make an effort to comment on something good and something that needs improved upon for each review. The unsolicited praise that a lot of people give here is actually counter productive. When people post total crap, they end up thinking it's good and never improve if all the hear is "good job". If a song stinks, it stinks, but they should at least know why and suggestions to improve.
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2014/01/04 15:23:04
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Leadfoot Although, I did see 3 or 4 in a row that a particular person commented on, and the person's posts were 2 minutes apart for all the posts. Hmmm...
You might consider that "stalkng time" could be put to better use. Just saying.
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2014/01/04 15:23:44
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daryl1968 very nice - a little too much reverb for my taste but great job ;)
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Re: Do they all really listen?
2014/01/04 15:29:51
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Guitarhacker So.... I listen to at least 15 seconds of a song. By then I have a good handle on the quality of the mix and recording. I may throw in a few more seconds if there are lyrics.
If the song is ok I may comment "good job". Often these days I don't have as much time as I would like to review and comment as I would like to.
On occasion I hear something that grabs me or irritates me and I comment in greater detail. There are some times when I have listened through the song 3 or more times.
It all depends.
I'm pretty much with Herb (these days for me). For three years every Thursday night I attended the "L.A. Songwriters Showcase" where the mantra was "Don't bore us, get to the chorus". That venue awas about songwriting and not production. For me unless the person asks for specific/detailed comments on the mix I may or may not listen all the way through the song. So, if I onlylisten to 30-45 seconds of a song and comment, does that make me a bad person? Does it lessen my comment to being only negligible? Does Daryl like kittens and monkeys? As the old saying goes, in 100 years will it really matter?
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