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2009/10/18 10:10:09 (permalink)

Do you mix in track or console view?

Just curious. I've been using track view for mixing ever since I got Sonar. I don't know why. I guess I just didn't think about console view, and now I'm so used to it that I don't know if I could easily adjust to console view. I guess I would if it made any difference in sound.


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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/18 10:23:01 (permalink)
    Console view is great. If you have lots of tracks console view can make it easy to make adjustments to both the track strip and any plug ins. 
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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/18 10:35:43 (permalink)
    Whats a console view?

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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/18 10:40:32 (permalink)
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    Whats a console view?

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    I guess depending who you are, it can either be this neat little gray box on a computer screen or a Neve 8078.
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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/18 10:55:43 (permalink)
    Track View because I like to see into the future when I'm mixing.

    But I gotta admit, once the mix is done I switch over to Console View, lean back & watch the pretty lights.

    The only problem is how do you fit more than (16 or so) tracks on the screen at once? I've never been able to figure out how to shrink the tracks to fit on screen.

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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/18 11:43:14 (permalink)
    I've always mixed in track view and haven't thought of any reason to try other views.

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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/18 12:58:56 (permalink)
    Track view.  I hardly ever use console view.

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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/18 13:32:23 (permalink)
    track view.  I'll track (pun intended) down problems in the console view, esp. buses, but mainly use the track view.

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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/18 14:56:18 (permalink)
    Console view is great for showing off how cool your DAW looks with dual monitors. I bring it up if I want to impress someone who knows nothing about DAWs.

    But for mixing? Nah.


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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/18 15:04:13 (permalink)
    I use both..... but mostly track view. I can see my envelopes and I can also see what's coming. Most volume and panning adjustments are done here.

    Console view is good for seeing the entire project at once.... to watch the meters to be sure nothing clips. It's also easier to see that everything is going where it's supposed to go....tracks to busses, and then to master.  I hide the midi source tracks and use narrow view if I have a large number of tracks. ( not very common)

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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/18 17:28:11 (permalink)
    Gee...I must be the oddball here.  Once I get my tracks set up I generally work in the console.  I just find it easier to see all the levels as a verfication against what I'm hearing.  The only thing I'll typically do in track view as far as mixing is automation as it's a lot more efficient there than in console view...more tedious, but a WHOLE lot more efficient and precise.
     
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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/18 18:33:46 (permalink)
    I start out in Track View, to insert markers, apply fades and crossfades, general track cleaning and clip gain envelopes, and then I switch to Console View for track and bus volume adjustments, panning, eq and applying effects.

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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/19 00:26:33 (permalink)
    Same as Bob, set up in the track view, group instruments so they display in the console better, mix to busses in the console, then concentrate on the busses in the console. Go back to track view when detail work is needed, rinse, repeat.

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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/19 03:46:40 (permalink)
    Yeah, same as the above 2.

    Track view for tracking, organisation, automation etc, console view for everything else.



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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/19 07:00:45 (permalink)
    i'm in the track view camp as well-though i admit console view is fun for watching the automation
    if i had 2 monitors i would probable use both

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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/19 08:58:36 (permalink)
    Console for mixing, track for editing.

    Easier for me to see in console. I guess it's a verticle, horizontal thing.
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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/19 15:29:34 (permalink)
    I view buses on console view and tracks on track view, each on separate screens. If I am using bus envelopes, I view buses on track view.

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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/19 16:03:49 (permalink)
    Track View all the way....

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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/20 23:51:00 (permalink)
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    I start out in Track View, to insert markers, apply fades and crossfades, general track cleaning and clip gain envelopes, and then I switch to Console View for track and bus volume adjustments, panning, eq and applying effects.

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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/21 01:41:07 (permalink)
    I track in track view, do all editing etc, then, I mix in console view. I guess it is because I'm used to mixing on a real console. Some things are just hard to let go of.

    This is the first time I've heard that the Console View uses more CPU. I'll have to do a little comparison to see the difference. What makes the Console View so CPU intensive?

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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/21 01:55:20 (permalink)
    Thought that statement was a little unusual myself, I can see no reason why the console view would add cpu cycles. What could possibly be happening to add to the load?

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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/21 07:29:39 (permalink)
    I use both..........as stated before.....
    Track, edit, envlope,automation, basic mixing and some other type things...but then go over to console view for a more refined mixing.

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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/21 08:26:13 (permalink)
    I've never mixed in console view, I stay in track view all the time.

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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/21 09:23:33 (permalink)
    I too work a lot like Bob. I use a Mackie Control Universal Pro and I have the Console and Track views set up as user buttons, so I switch back and forth a lot during mixing and tracking.
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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/21 10:13:57 (permalink)
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    I start out in Track View, to insert markers, apply fades and crossfades, general track cleaning and clip gain envelopes, and then I switch to Console View for track and bus volume adjustments, panning, eq and applying effects.

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    This is the way I work too. I find it easier to to mix in the Console View because you don't have to activate or expand the track in order to have access to the controls.

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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/21 11:46:45 (permalink)
    Can anyone confirm that the Console View uses more CPU?

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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/21 14:42:05 (permalink)
    I've been using Sonor for nearly a year and the other morning was the first time I even looked at console view. I enjoyed it very much (lots of pretty colors). But when I want to get some work done, its track view all the way!

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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/21 15:30:38 (permalink)
    Console view for mixing, track view for tracking & editing.

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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/21 16:01:25 (permalink)
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    Just curious. I've been using track view for mixing ever since I got Sonar. I don't know why. I guess I just didn't think about console view, and now I'm so used to it that I don't know if I could easily adjust to console view. I guess I would if it made any difference in sound.


    wow, this thread got long quick. Lots of folks have different work styles.  As for me I only use the console for quick, rough mix settings just for setting up monitoring. I also use it to add effects using the bins. But when I get ready to do the final mix I switch to the track view. Using the console to do automation makes a mess of the envelopes and I like to keep mine clean and only make the number of nodes needed to get the job done. This makes later adjustments easier.  However, I do have dual monitors so I keep both views open all the time so I can see everything.
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    Re:Do you mix in track or console view? 2009/10/21 20:41:39 (permalink)
    I guess my quick answer is both. I use Sonic Core Scope so I generally mix through a Sonic Core mixer (the 4896 version for those who know about such things) on monitor 2. If I didn't have Scope I'd have the Sonar mixer up and running constantly on monitor 2 just because it makes sense to do so.
     
    But generally speaking, I do most of my work in the track pane. It just makes more sense for me to do it there. I'm not moving my eyes back and forth so much I guess. I find it a tad distracting to dart my eyes from monitor to monitor. I prefer to do what I can on monitor one and since it seems you can do almost everything right there in the track pane anyway, why not. Sonar facilitates working like that quite well. Samplitude is a different matter. In Sam world, you need to be able to bounce back and forth since some important features are only available in the mixer window.
     
     

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