We interrupt this pseudo cowboy saloon fight to feature a Heavy Metal Song

 
Did your analytical mind let you just listen to the song ?
Or did you get distracted at times by the eye candy  ? 
 
Kenny

Wayfarer
Ken, I think he was joking, indicating that she was such a knockout that he couldn't take his eyes off her long enough to read what you were saying. I may be wrong, but that's all I thought when i read that.
 
Bill

 
^^This.
 
Kinda thought it would be obvious, but then I'm not sure if Ken's reply was 100% serious or some sort of satirical thing, or a combination of both.  Either way, I didn't go back to bed in a fetal position, so it's a good day. lol

kennywtelejazz
We interrupt this pseudo cowboy saloon fight to feature a Heavy Metal Song

 
Did your analytical mind let you just listen to the song ?
Or did you get distracted at times by the eye candy  ? 
 
Kenny

Is that on of the daughters of Ozzy? Reminds me of Ozzy, just younger. 

I've done the same thing . . . lots of times. Forgive and forget everybody. Life's too short to carry grudges.

kennywtelejazz
Hello jyoung60 ,
 
I'm sorry for saying the things I said too you . I assumed incorrectly what you intent was in your posts .
In my real life things have not been going well for me lately .
I know it's no excuse but I have to find a better way to deal with the pressure so this type of thing won't happen again .
If it any consolation too you , if I run across myself in a dark alley I will punch that guy in the mouth for the things he said to you ..
 
Kenny

Apology accepted. No hard feelings. Life gets to us all in varying degrees. The best part about this is your willingness to own it and fix it. That's what being a real human is all about.  
 
Oh, and don't punch that guy - give him a hug. Pretty sure he could use it.

michael diemer
A beautiful woman lasts a few years, then her beauty fades. Sad. Fortunately, music lasts forever.

Real beauty never fades.

kennywtelejazz
OK boys and girls .
Is music like           ? they say  there's no such thing as bad        you fill in the blank

 
Kenny
 
 
 

 
Michael Jackson Lives!

kennywtelejazz
The question has been put forth ...Is there such a thing as bad music ? or does a person decide that one for themselves based on their Bias's and personal preferences ? If so is not the analytical mind nothing more than a gatekeeper ?
 

I think ALL things are quantifiable. Us Earthlings are just way too unintelligent to figure out the rules of the game more often than not. For instance, no one in his right mind would say that the sounds a cat makes when he walks across the piano keys is great music. Obviously it can't compare to a Chopin piano sonata. Going up the scale a bit, no one (and again I emphasize in their right minds) would think a composition written by someone who's only been playing for a single day could compare to something by a 20 year musician.
 
Some of those quantifying factors are easy to see. Intonation, playing a note solid rather than just catching a piece of it (as we guitarists are so often guilty of doing), timing etc. But even when all those things are all perfectly fine in any given piece, there are mysterious things in music we can perceive instinctively that are good or bad, better or worse than another piece of music. For example, how hard or simple a piece of music is to play has no bearing on how good or bad the piece is. You could write an incredibly complex piece that no one would want to hear and a very simple piece that most people really like. And to top it off, we quite often don't even know why a simple piece written by a beginner is not even close to being as good as a simple piece written by Bach. Both are simple. Things like the timing and intonation may be right on the money with both. Yet we ALL instinctively know the Bach piece is terrific and the beginner's piece isn't. But we don't know why. Our senses can perceive greatness, but our brains don't understand it.
 
What a world.
 
Bill

Wayfarer

kennywtelejazz
The question has been put forth ...Is there such a thing as bad music ? or does a person decide that one for themselves based on their Bias's and personal preferences ? If so is not the analytical mind nothing more than a gatekeeper ?
 

I think ALL things are quantifiable. Us Earthlings are just way too unintelligent to figure out the rules of the game more often than not. For instance, no one in his right mind would say that the sounds a cat makes when he walks across the piano keys is great music. Obviously it can't compare to a Chopin piano sonata. Going up the scale a bit, no one (and again I emphasize in their right minds) would think a composition written by someone who's only been playing for a single day could compare to something by a 20 year musician.
 
Some of those quantifying factors are easy to see. Intonation, playing a note solid rather than just catching a piece of it (as we guitarists are so often guilty of doing), timing etc. But even when all those things are all perfectly fine in any given piece, there are mysterious things in music we can perceive instinctively that are good or bad, better or worse than another piece of music. For example, how hard or simple a piece of music is to play has no bearing on how good or bad the piece is. You could write an incredibly complex piece that no one would want to hear and a very simple piece that most people really like. And to top it off, we quite often don't even know why a simple piece written by a beginner is not even close to being as good as a simple piece written by Bach. Both are simple. Things like the timing and intonation may be right on the money with both. Yet we ALL instinctively know the Bach piece is terrific and the beginner's piece isn't. But we don't know why. Our senses can perceive greatness, but our brains don't understand it.
 
What a world.
 
Bill

No words needed really. LOL

 

michaelhanson
I'm thinking I may need to visit Turkey.

I'm sure he'd enjoy that but I think he prefers to be called bapuandorEd.
 
I am not certain though.
 
;-)

I'd be willing to bet on that the vast majority of top 40 hits generated through the 60's, 70's and 80's where written by folks that did not go to music school.

I think that it is more of a willingness to notice what works and is most popular.

eph221
What's good and beautiful isn't always popular.  Also, at least in the states most kids used to get music education in the schools.  Not much anymore.  Now we see the results!!!  Haha.

Yep. And unfortunately hear them as well, as we walk through stores and are assaulted by the garbage that passes for music these days.

jamesg1213

michael diemer

eph221
What's good and beautiful isn't always popular.  Also, at least in the states most kids used to get music education in the schools.  Not much anymore.  Now we see the results!!!  Haha.

Yep. And unfortunately hear them as well, as we walk through stores and are assaulted by the garbage that passes for music these days.

 
There is more brilliant music 'these days' than ever before. You have to listen in different places, that's all.

we both assumed we just meant popular music re michael's comment.  In other words, what's popular isn't necessarily good and beautiful.  You're right about there being incredible creativity with respect to music right now.