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2017/10/12 17:30:26 (permalink)

Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar?

Being a Traditionalist/Minimalist, I try to keep processing to a bare minimum. if something already sounds great, just leave it alone.
However, recently, I enabled the EQ on the RME UFX Plus and I was just blown away, it's 3 Band very simple but extremely clean, no color as in tube like or tape saturation like sound.

Unless I have missed something, one of my issues with the Sonitus is the Graphical style layout (different strokes for different folks)
and also, (Please Correct me if I am wrong), I have also seen the Sonitus as a fortune cookie or a mint, you know a free give away. More of a gesture then of any value. Just like Microsoft Access included in a Office Suite which most people do not use.
But I could be wrong, especially given I do not use these plug-ins much.


Do you use the Sonitus FX Plugin, if so how would you rate the quality compare to other Software Effects, and if so, is it enough to get your work done?

My favorite Sonar FX plugin was the Lexicon Patheon, I loved that, I also use the Sonitus Delay, which is cool.

Thanks everyone.
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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 18:01:03 (permalink)
I used them for a few years, they worked fine for me. I don't really use them that much anymore. 
I can say that the Reverb has crashed Sonar in 64bit. when I try to use the predelay.
 
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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 18:05:57 (permalink)
I use the Compressor pretty often.  I've got a go-to preset for side-chaining the bass guitar from the kick drum, for example (this is my #1 use for the Sonitus compressor). 
If I need a noise gate or wahwah effect, the Sonitus are my first try.  They don't always end up the final choice, but they're where i start.

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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 18:14:09 (permalink)
no ... 
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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 18:16:59 (permalink)
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no ... 



So what do you use? I am looking at getting the an FX Suite.
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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 18:21:54 (permalink)
I still use them quite a bit.
Back in the day these were a pretty price for the whole suite. Their GUI isn't fancy and they may sometimes appear to have a lower sample/bit rate but they are still very capable.
 
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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 18:25:52 (permalink)
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I use the Compressor pretty often.  


Ditto. Woks really well on my P-Bass. For some reason not so well on my other basses. But I happen to have a few VST compressors to choose from for those basses.

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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 18:38:16 (permalink)
I use them all the time for various things. I especially find myself using the delay.

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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 18:50:48 (permalink)
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I use them all the time for various things. I especially find myself using the delay.


Same here. That delay has a real old school vibe to it and easy to set repeats/time/synch to host.

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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 18:55:09 (permalink)
Sonitus gate is very handy too.
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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 18:57:48 (permalink)
Sonitus Equalizer is very good for removing harsh frequencies. Even better than LP EQ imo. Use it all the time.

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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 19:01:43 (permalink)
EQ, Delay, Gate. I use all three some exclusive others not. They still hold their own even though the GUI could use an update.
 
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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 19:02:18 (permalink)
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I use them all the time for various things. I especially find myself using the delay.


Same here. That delay has a real old school vibe to it and easy to set repeats/time/synch to host.



 
Agreed, I love the delay, most likely my favorite.
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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 19:06:06 (permalink)
It probably depends on who you ask.  If you have ever had the Producer, Professional, or Platinum versions of Sonar you already have many choices of FX, in addition to Sonitus, to choose from the start.
 
Cakewalk bought Sonitus:fx from an up and coming company called Ultrafunk in 2003.  They provide a good baseline effects bundle for all version of Sonar.   But as Chuck said, good plugins never die!
 
They are good, but even Cakewalk offers some newer tools in the flagship Platinum now.  But even so, the Sonitus fx still has a place for many.  They don't have fancy GUI interfaces, but if you know what you are doing, you can get results.
 
Before you splurge on a FX suite, take a google around at the free FX bundles out there.  There is some good stuff from Blue Cat Audio, Melda, and Tokyo Dawn, for example.

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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 19:14:45 (permalink)
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Sonitus Equalizer is very good for removing harsh frequencies. Even better than LP EQ imo. Use it all the time.


 
+1, I use it regularly, for HPF too. I liked it when it was set as the EQ for audio tracks, what was that in, Sonar 8? I use the compressor on the master bus too. The GUI is dated, but nice and clear. I prefer it over some of the overly fussy 'steampunk' stuff.

 
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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 19:14:52 (permalink)
Nice to have various spices on hand and they have very low cpu demands for effect chains!

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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 19:30:59 (permalink)
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Being a Traditionalist/Minimalist, I try to keep processing to a bare minimum. if something already sounds great, just leave it alone.
However, recently, I enabled the EQ on the RME UFX Plus and I was just blown away, it's 3 Band very simple but extremely clean, no color as in tube like or tape saturation like sound.

Unless I have missed something, one of my issues with the Sonitus is the Graphical style layout (different strokes for different folks)
and also, (Please Correct me if I am wrong), I have also seen the Sonitus as a fortune cookie or a mint, you know a free give away. More of a gesture then of any value. Just like Microsoft Access included in a Office Suite which most people do not use.
But I could be wrong, especially given I do not use these plug-ins much.


Do you use the Sonitus FX Plugin, if so how would you rate the quality compare to other Software Effects, and if so, is it enough to get your work done?

My favorite Sonar FX plugin was the Lexicon Patheon, I loved that, I also use the Sonitus Delay, which is cool.

Thanks everyone.


What version of Sonar are you using?
 
(I no longer use the Sonitus Plugins, but they were a very legit suite back in the day, they still function just fine, but I prefer other tools with prettier GUIs)
 
 
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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 19:40:16 (permalink)
Pretty rarely.

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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 19:42:45 (permalink)
Some are my go to for track bin effects, I use the delay, EQ and compressor when needed. I like the simple GUI as I have never had any issue dialing in what I want. Often when I try other Plug ins I'll open them,, scratch my head, try to get what I'm after, fail,  and remove them. 
I like the BT stuff as well. 
 

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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 20:31:51 (permalink)
I use the delay more than any of them sometimes, and one in a while the reverb.

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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 20:33:55 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby TheMaartian 2017/10/13 15:46:11
I use them all the time. The Modulation plug is like having, well, 30 boutique pedals. The 30 modulation preset freebies in the 2017.06 update and the 30 CA-X amps in the 2017.08 update should get that point across.
 
The Wah plug can model a Clyde McCoy/Thomas Organ Vox wah wah pedal with uncanny accuracy, and the envelope followed filter aspect is aces.
 
The Delay does crossfeed, diffusion, and tricks other delays just can't do.
 
The Phase plug-in does phase-based widening that doesn't collapse in mono.
 
The Multiband is fantastic when you want a crossover for multiband processing that doesn't take a lot of CPU. You can also compress the crap out of the top bands when feeding an amp sim to provide the equivalent of a dynamically-driven "rolling back the tone control for a creamier sound" with guitar. You can also treat it as a graphic EQ with user-definable bands in which you can add compression if you want.
 
There are many reverbs that are better than the Sonitus reverb if your only interest is sound quality, but the Sonitus has its own sonic signature that I find useful, particularly in parallel with long delays and as the basic for modeling impulses.
 
I could go on (like how the Surround does cool vibrato and tremolo), but you get the point...how you apply a plug-in matters too.

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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 20:35:46 (permalink)
They're fine plugins, the GUIs make them a bit fiddly to work with IMO. The compressor was the first one I use that had a graphical display of the compression curve. As a novice it was really helpful to visualize what was happening. When they were all that was included in Cakewalk/Sonar (not sure when the were added?) I used them all the time. I don't really use them anymore.

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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 20:36:40 (permalink)
I rarely use the EQ or Compressor these days, but I still make good use of the others - Delay, Gate, Modulator, Phase, Multiband Compressor & the Surround Panner (works GREAT on mono or stereo tracks)

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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 21:09:48 (permalink)
Sonitus reverb is my main choice .
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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 21:12:20 (permalink)
I still have the Gate and Compressor on my vocal tracks because I built them into my usual project template years ago and I've never bothered to change it.
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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 21:14:23 (permalink)
These venerable plugins are a staple on all my projects. I think they are great, and as kzmaier says, low CPU. 
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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 21:46:57 (permalink)
 
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They're fine plugins, the GUIs make them a bit fiddly to work with IMO. The compressor was the first one I use that had a graphical display of the compression curve. As a novice it was really helpful to visualize what was happening. When they were all that was included in Cakewalk/Sonar (not sure when the were added?) I used them all the time. I don't really use them anymore.


Yeah, I kind of like the look and feel of parametric EQ, like those on the Channel Strip.
Here,s the thing, being a traditionalist can be good but also very bad because you don't get out of your mindset and I hate to miss out. :)
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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 21:54:25 (permalink)
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I could go on (like how the Surround does cool vibrato and tremolo), but you get the point.



Please do Sir. :)

I have used the delay on every song I recorded with Sonar. Instead of doing double tracking, I sometimes prefer to use delays on vocals or rap verses.

But as I mentioned below, sometimes you have to spread your wings, to experiment and apart from the RME effects I mentioned, I have really never used other FX outside of what ships with Sonar.

I just don't like the graphical GUI of the EQ, I know this has nothing to do with sound but there is something about dialing a knob, especially when you are used to analog stuff.

Curious, Has there been any updates or changes to this plug in?
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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 22:40:22 (permalink)
Well Hardware EQ's came as both Graphic and then the Parametric so it's the same here. There are plug is of both and many that combine the features like "Q" and low and hi pass filters so pick the one that seems the easiest to dial in the sound you want. My go to EQ is the LP. Easy to add a hi pass. Seems low CPU too.  

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Re: Do you use the included Sonitus FX Suite In Sonar? 2017/10/12 22:52:49 (permalink)
 
Yes, love the high functionality packed in a no-nonsense GUI.
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