I'm going with SoundOnSound and SoundBytesMag for reviews. Never duped.

Another zombie post -- forum is wack.

Thanks to Tim for responding to the conspiracy-mongering in this thread.
 
Cheers,
Eddie
 
 
 

dmbaer
With music (CDs) it's harder because someone may be perfectly excellent at communicating their opinions but happen to like a type of music that you cannot stand.

I think it helps if the reviews are written by "regulars" so that you can get a feel over time for what the reviewer likes and therefore whether you are likely to or not. Back in the late 70s/early 80s I discovered a lot of music by basing what I bought on reviews in the New Musical Express. I found if Mick Farren and/or Charles Shaar Murray liked a record or band I probably would as well. These days there's so much article churning, uninformed opinion and straightforward plagiarism on the interenet I'm not sure that kind of principle is still useful....

 
I just wasn't wowed by the effect.  Anyway I was aware of what it does and watched the videos by Brauer himself on how to use it.  So anyway I used it on some Taiko drums and something else like a noise sweep. It's a subtle effect but can be use less subtle. 
 
So I sort of understand what it does although not fully yet and I might look at buying at some point. Just isn't a priority for me as I want to get more plug-ins to do with premastering at the moment.
 

Just for the record I have purchased a few Waves plug-ins recently. Mainly EQ, analogue modelling like AR J37 Tape, VEQ (Neve) . I don't think I'm anti-waves at all just don't think everybody should be so forced into having the same opinion.
 

I will take myself as an exemple ...when i don t like a plugins ( oor a video lol) i just skip'it ... done


I usually don tpost reviews , but when i do it s when i really think i have to share how exellent a tool is ... i guess a lot are also like this , so i don t find it suspect ...

All the raving reviews are on products i consider exellent ...or at least some that can be loved by the mass...

I tried he cla mixdown , and i m not at all impressed by it but i can really understand why people loves it ....fiving that it works wonder on certain type of music /scenario ...

Matron Landslide

Eddie TX
Thanks to Tim for responding to the conspiracy-mongering in this thread.
 
Cheers,
Eddie
 

Amen to that!!
 
And you can take some of the respondents remarks in this thread with a grain of salt, or perhaps a truck load of salt, especially the one(s) who have a loooooooooong track record over the years of having an agenda and being very negatively biased when it comes to Waves, and vocally anti Waves at every opportunity.
 
Always demo stuff and find out for yourself, it is the only way.

Well I started this thread and I'm a fan of a lot of Waves plugins. Think some of them are overrated, but there are many Waves plugins that I use on every project. I think their Element synth is one of the best VST synths available, and I also love Electric 200. I own the Gold bundle but also lots of other odds and ends, like the Aphex exciter. Not a fan of WUP and I hate their installation process, but you can't have everything. 
 
The reason I started this thread is because I see a lot of companies who host their own reviews on their sites these days and I just think it's wise to be very, very skeptical about them - regardless of what the company claims. Of course they're going to claim that it's all above board - they wouldn't say anything else. Yes, it's marketing. The thing that bothers me is that it's so tempting to be swayed by a bunch of glowing reviews of a plugin when you're on the fence about buying it, and every single review on the Waves site that I've read is glowing. In my experience, opinion doesn't look like this. You'll get some people who rave about it, and others who say "meh - wasn't that impressed." Research has shown that people are more likely to believe reviews when there's a few not so good ones mixed in there.
 
I guess my skepticism also comes from being a business owner with a website. I get reviews on Yelp and Google - mostly good, but also some complaints in there as well. I quote from reviews on my website. Do I quote the bad ones? Of course I don't! So I'm much more likely to believe the overall picture painted by reviews on sites like Yelp and Amazon than I am on a vendor's own website. 
 
So overall, not saying that all of the reviews on the Waves site are fabricated, just saying that the overall tone of them doesn't look like a realistic cross section of opinion. I mean you can go to Glassdoor and see reviews from Waves employees of what it's like to work there, and most of them are good but there are a couple of negative ones. Something like that looks far more believable, and as a prospective employee I wouldn't be changing my mind about working there based on a small minority of bad reviews. 

Matron Landslide

Eddie TX
Thanks to Tim for responding to the conspiracy-mongering in this thread.
 
Cheers,
Eddie
 

Amen to that!!
 
And you can take some of the respondents remarks in this thread with a grain of salt, or perhaps a truck load of salt, especially the one(s) who have a loooooooooong track record over the years of having an agenda and being very negatively biased when it comes to Waves, and vocally anti Waves at every opportunity.
 
Always demo stuff and find out for yourself, it is the only way.

Yes, demo yourself & be careful of fake news & lies that people make up here.

Grem

Zargg
 
 
Becan?: EVERYONE has their own spin on Becan
42?: Everything you read should be taken with 42 grain of salt
Monkey?: You better be able to sift through the Monkey BS

Those are real good additions too!!

So they weren't correct?
None of them?!?
 

I take the maker site 'reviews' as nothing more than testimonials. It is highly unlikely they will allow a negative review to stay. I don't really blame them for that but I know to take them with a grain of salt. The ones that really irk me are the resellers that are filtering reviews. I don't think GC will allow 1 or 2 star reviews of anything. Something could be the biggest POS on the planet but they will only show 3+ star reviews.
 
As to the mag reviews, they are really no different than the Amazon reviewers that got the product for free. I tend to give them more stock if they are comparing many of the same type of item than a single product review. In that instance, I find them to be more fact based than merely opinion.