Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack?

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2012/07/11 13:37:59 (permalink)

Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack?

If so, any opinons?
 
Audiomidi currently has it on sale for $25.00.   And apparently it includes some version of BFD Eco.
 

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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 14:53:29 (permalink)
    For a minute I thought you were talking about a pack of actual cymbals. If so I would be all over it. 





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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 14:54:41 (permalink)
    Ha!   Yeah, that would be extremely inexpensive.   And pretty loud too.  
     

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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 14:58:58 (permalink)
    I've got the Gen16 Vol.2 pack and it's very good.  It's rather big (about 15 gigs) but that accounts for the great detail in the samples/instruments.  $25 bucks is indeed a "no-brainer".

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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 15:26:23 (permalink)
    Whoa... 15GB just for cymbals? That's nuts. They must be good. lol... And what's this about BFD Eco being included? That sounds a little hinkey. Got a link, stevec?
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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 15:38:19 (permalink)
    128 velocity layers (up to) hence the size

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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 15:39:06 (permalink)
    If they're seriously giving away a copy of Eco at that price that's insane and unmissable.
    I would buy the zildgen set were it not for the fact that they don't ship to the UK.
    There's a few posts on the software forum about it and lots of people on the FX forum bought the Gen16 packs at full price saying they were well worth the money. 
    At the moment fxpansion have a 30% off sale and they are $55 each and $125 for the Z pack
    so it really is a no brainer.

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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 15:43:32 (permalink)
    Steve, I'm downloading one of the packs now - £35

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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 15:45:43 (permalink)
    I'm tempted. I mean I like cymbals and all but.....I don't have a problem with the ones that come with BFD2 although I would like a wider range I guess. 
    I'll have another look
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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 15:50:11 (permalink)
    I'll tell you what made me bite the bullet Steve, I was trying to find a set of 3 similar sounding crashes for a particular song, and ended up having to slightly alter the tuning of one which fitted the mix perfectly.

    I need more crash cymbals!

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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 15:56:01 (permalink)
    I've not had much of a chance to play with BFD Eco, since getting it last week, so before I go and get an more sample packs for it I should listen a bit more to the ones that I have. Tis difficult to ignore a cymbal pack though... having a set of more subtle tins to hit has to be a plus...

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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 16:14:49 (permalink)
    Does anybody know whether or not these cymbals can be "plugged into" another drum sample program such as Superior Drummer? I'm a bit mystified how to use them using the "included software powered by Eco" if I'm using Superior Drummer for the rest of my drum kit sounds in a given project.
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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 16:19:18 (permalink)
    this is an interesting snippet:-

    BFD Eco DV is almost identical to BFD Eco. It includes an additional all-cymbal mode, which re-purposes all 12 kit-piece slots as cymbal slots. It is switchable to drumkit mode, which operates in exactly the same way as BFD Eco. The BFD Eco manual is supplied, with a summary of differences included in the Z-Pack1 installation/quick-start guide.

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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 16:20:14 (permalink)
    B.R.


    Does anybody know whether or not these cymbals can be "plugged into" another drum sample program such as Superior Drummer? I'm a bit mystified how to use them using the "included software powered by Eco" if I'm using Superior Drummer for the rest of my drum kit sounds in a given project.

    I think they're for FXpansion only but if it really does include eco it is a no brainer and as for using it with superior drummer I'd hazard a guess and say you should be able to load both eco and superior drummer in the same project so you could just use them together.


    You may find you actually prefer the sound and features of BFD Eco : )


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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 16:27:52 (permalink)
    hmm... Says it's a box (too big for download) and they don't ship internationally. I guess as a Canuckian I'm out of luck. :-(
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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 16:29:54 (permalink)
    To get the same pack delivered to the UK is going to cost £83...

    The fact the BFD Eco DV can be configured so that all twelve slots are cymbals, this has to be a plus... Why bother bringing them into another drumming package? I'm now using Battery, Session Drummer and BFD Eco, and I can mix and match the best aspects from each :^)

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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 16:34:43 (permalink)
    @twaddle...I could load up both programs, but I was just thinking it would be impossible to share one midi drumkit track with two sample programs at the same time. Not sure if there is a way to do that...I'd love to get these cymbals for $25, but I want to keep using Superior. :-)
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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 16:37:49 (permalink)
    Hahaha! Holy crap! It's selling on the Zildjian site for $250. lol... No brainer indeed.
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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 16:48:27 (permalink)
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    @twaddle...I could load up both programs, but I was just thinking it would be impossible to share one midi drumkit track with two sample programs at the same time. Not sure if there is a way to do that...I'd love to get these cymbals for $25, but I want to keep using Superior. :-)

    sure there is - just run both of them completely independently, strip out your cymbal hits from the SD Midi track & paste into the relevant keys in the BFD Midi track

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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 16:52:38 (permalink)
    @Bristol...thanks for the tip, I've never tried doing that, and though it doesn't sound too easy, I'll look into it...I have to, because I just bought the dang thing, anyway...lol
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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 17:25:07 (permalink)
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    The fact the BFD Eco DV can be configured so that all twelve slots are cymbals, this has to be a plus... Why bother bringing them into another drumming package? I'm now using Battery, Session Drummer and BFD Eco, and I can mix and match the best aspects from each :^) 

    This pack of cymbals is also accessible through BFD2 and/or BFD Eco. Just put the install path in the config. No need to use BFD Eco DV unless you do want to use the cymbal packs along side of Battery, Session Drummer, Superior etc. (like synkrotron says).
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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 17:32:54 (permalink)
    Dag gam it!!!! I couldn't resist another no brainer. Is there a support group for this?

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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 17:35:37 (permalink)
    Yeah, Rocky... me, too. Just pulled the trigger on the order.
    Of course, I have wanted this pack since it was first introduced.

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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 17:42:33 (permalink)
    Yep, I slapped down my 25 bucks too...and I own more drum sample libraries than I know what to do with. BFD, Superior, Addictive, Platinum, Battery...gah! I clearly have some sort of problem that should be addressed with therapy.

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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 17:46:19 (permalink)
    At least it's cheap G.A.S.

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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 17:47:13 (permalink)
    Thanks, everyone.   I very much appreciate all the input.   I just placed my order with Audiomidi.com and should have it in a few days. 
     
    It was $28.99 for the boxed version *with* shipping.   That's a pretty incredible deal, a veritable "no brainer" if you will.  
     
     
     
    Beepster, if you're interested here is the link: http://www.audiomidi.com/Zildjian-Gen16-Digital-Vault-Z-Pack/dp/B00439GVLQ
     

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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 17:49:15 (permalink)
    Living in CA, I have to pay tax. $31.18 for me.
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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 17:54:26 (permalink)
    So you only saved about $218.82?   @#$% taxes.   
     
    The next thing you know y'all be playing a tub and board with a single strand of twine instead of that Alembicadoodle.
     

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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 20:00:53 (permalink)
    A hearty THANKS to SteveC for tipping us to this incredible deal! (Addiction or not, I couldn't pass this up.)

    I might have never known about this outrageous bargain if not for the timely post.

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    Re:Does anyone use the Zildjian Gen16 Cymbal Pack? 2012/07/11 20:03:56 (permalink)
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    So you only saved about $218.82?   @#$% taxes.   
     
    The next thing you know y'all be playing a tub and board with a single strand of twine instead of that Alembicadoodle.
     


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