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2013/02/22 20:31:22 (permalink)

Done

After this thread
http://forum.cakewalk.com...80&mpage=2#2787145

I've had enough. These forums are impossible. You can't even help a person resolve a technical issue nowadays without somebody being on the attack or somebody giving advice based on a thread they haven't read (thinking its their own thread or something) or actual facts.

I'm sure some people will be happy to see me go.

Bye.

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    jb101
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    Re:Done 2013/02/22 20:42:18 (permalink)
    I won't be, Alex.
     
    I have felt the same recently, but we can't leave because of dullards.
     
    I have started posting less, because fighting the poor wretches can seem a little tiresome.
     
    Just laugh at them.  Some of the people on here who used to wind me up now provide my daily comedy.
     
    You know Sonar is working for you, so take pleasure in their misery.  PM people if you have good help for them and stupid people argue with your advice.
     
    Now just watch as they all turn up to air their ignorance in public.. (sits back with popcorn..)
    edited for clarity
    post edited by jb101 - 2013/02/22 21:23:51

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    Re:Done 2013/02/22 20:43:59 (permalink)
    I sure wont. Alex we have had our ups and downs but never have I questioned your affection for this forum.  

    We are seeing too many go and you have such a original way of looking at things it would be a rotten shame for you to leave us. 

    If I can presume a bit please stay.

    Best
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    Re:Done 2013/02/22 20:50:30 (permalink)
    I wouldn't want to see you, Freddie, John, JB101, or anyone leave this forum.

    There's something in the air lately. I think someone mentioned, can't remember who, something about cabin fever because of it being winter. I think it's partly that, and partly the seemingly endless stream of bad news we're bombarded with from day to day with the state of things in the world.

    I honestly believe that subconsciously it effects us all in ways we don't even realize some times and it comes out in ways we couldn't imagine.

    We all need to chill it seems, myself included.

    Take a break, smash a guitar, break a monitor, but nah ... don't leave.

    "I pulled the head off Elvis, filled Fred up to his pelvis, yaba daba do, the King is gone, and so are you."
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    Re:Done 2013/02/22 20:50:41 (permalink)
    Yes to what was already said...please do not go...

    The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate.

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    Re:Done 2013/02/22 20:54:28 (permalink)
    I think I'm going to start smoking pot again. 

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    Re:Done 2013/02/22 21:20:33 (permalink)
    Bub


    I wouldn't want to see you, Freddie, John, JB101, or anyone leave this forum.

    There's something in the air lately. I think someone mentioned, can't remember who, something about cabin fever because of it being winter. I think it's partly that, and partly the seemingly endless stream of bad news we're bombarded with from day to day with the state of things in the world.

    I honestly believe that subconsciously it effects us all in ways we don't even realize some times and it comes out in ways we couldn't imagine.

    We all need to chill it seems, myself included.

    Take a break, smash a guitar, break a monitor, but nah ... don't leave.

    For once we're in agreemnt, bub.
     
    I was just about to post something in the same vein.  Let's all chill, and remember why we're here   -   a love of music.
     
    In the words of a great twentieth century philosopher - "We can work it out" and "All you need is love". 
     

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    Re:Done 2013/02/22 21:29:18 (permalink)
    CakeAlexS


    After this thread
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?high=&m=2786480&mpage=2#2787145

    I've had enough. These forums are impossible. You can't even help a person resolve a technical issue nowadays without somebody being on the attack or somebody giving advice based on a thread they haven't read (thinking its their own thread or something) or actual facts.

    I'm sure some people will be happy to see me go.

    Bye.

     I hope you don't leave. Not that it matters much what I think, but being a passionate and sometimes strong opinionated poster myself, there will be people that disagree with you. This we all accept being on a forum. However, the level in how they disagree or deliver their message is what's really important.
     
    Though you mean well and are passionate about what you believe in as well as your experience, the dude you are battling with is a good dude that is pretty hard to anger. Bub also gave good advice about this too and didn't quite agree with the bios thing. I don't say that because these guys are friends of mine as I NEVER take sides or play favorites. When someone is wrong, wrong is wrong....but I personally felt the advice these guys gave is pretty spot on. The last thing you want to make someone do is a bios flash. It is a last resort no matter how fool proof it may have been 300 times on your end.
     
    The great Jim Roseberry will even attest to it. You don't flash the bios unless you've tried everything you can think of, have picked the brains of others in the know and have exhausted every possibility. Think about what you're saying here Alex. Seriously man....you're talking about flashing a perfectly working system just because it seems to be having some Sonar X2 issues. Ok, it could be the bios....it's not that it's bad advice, I just think it's a bit too early for it. Reading the guys post, he said X1 was fine and his issues started with X2. Do you really feel someone with good results using X1 should be forced to do a bios flash due to issues with X2? I'm just being realistic man. That sure isn't something I would do nor do I think anyone else should. I'm not trying to disagree with you, I just sincerely believe that. I'd try another DAW before I'd flash my bios due to Sonar.
     
    You also can gain additional system settings by updating your bios and it can take a few days for an inexperienced user to figure them out. Even going "default" can alter things considerably. The fear of God should be in the man especially if he doesn't even know how to flash the bios or may not know how to go into the bios editing screen and make changes. I mean seriously bro, you can't be upset with people for stating what is in fact, the obvious when a user is not familiar with this sort of thing. Though it is often times fool proof in today's times, there has never been a bios flash for me that just worked without me having to alter things in the bios settings as well as accommodate the new options that may have been added. It's just something I wouldn't advise anyone to do unless it's absolutely necessary.
     
    That said, though we'll have to agree to disagree about this, I too would hate to see you leave the forum for what it's worth. But I share the advice of Bub and Grant and would advise Windows updates and more prying before doing a flash. That would be my absolute last resort. Sorry if this upsets you, but I'm just giving my opinion and trying to explain why others may not share your beliefs on this one.
     
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    Re:Done 2013/02/22 21:44:21 (permalink)
    jb101
    Bub

    I wouldn't want to see you, Freddie, John, JB101, or anyone leave this forum.

    There's something in the air lately. I think someone mentioned, can't remember who, something about cabin fever because of it being winter. I think it's partly that, and partly the seemingly endless stream of bad news we're bombarded with from day to day with the state of things in the world.

    I honestly believe that subconsciously it effects us all in ways we don't even realize some times and it comes out in ways we couldn't imagine.

    We all need to chill it seems, myself included.

    Take a break, smash a guitar, break a monitor, but nah ... don't leave.

    For once we're in agreemnt, bub.
     
    I was just about to post something in the same vein.  Let's all chill, and remember why we're here   -   a love of music.
     
    In the words of a great twentieth century philosopher - "We can work it out" and "All you need is love". 
    :)

    It's true, we're all here because we love music and we choose Sonar to make music with.

    I'll do my best to keep it more positive going forward and be less confrontational.

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    Re:Done 2013/02/22 21:44:23 (permalink)
    I thought Alex did suggest many things before the whole "flash bios" thing.
     
    And kept repeating them over and over again.

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    Re:Done 2013/02/22 21:45:44 (permalink)
    Bub


    jb101
    Bub

    I wouldn't want to see you, Freddie, John, JB101, or anyone leave this forum.

    There's something in the air lately. I think someone mentioned, can't remember who, something about cabin fever because of it being winter. I think it's partly that, and partly the seemingly endless stream of bad news we're bombarded with from day to day with the state of things in the world.

    I honestly believe that subconsciously it effects us all in ways we don't even realize some times and it comes out in ways we couldn't imagine.

    We all need to chill it seems, myself included.

    Take a break, smash a guitar, break a monitor, but nah ... don't leave.

    For once we're in agreemnt, bub.

    I was just about to post something in the same vein.  Let's all chill, and remember why we're here   -   a love of music.

    In the words of a great twentieth century philosopher - "We can work it out" and "All you need is love". 
    :)

    It's true, we're all here because we love music and we choose Sonar to make music with.

    I'll do my best to keep it more positive going forward and be less confrontational.


    I will do the same..

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    Re:Done 2013/02/22 21:55:34 (permalink)
    Bub


    I wouldn't want to see you, Freddie, John, JB101, or anyone leave this forum.

    There's something in the air lately. I think someone mentioned, can't remember who, something about cabin fever because of it being winter. I think it's partly that, and partly the seemingly endless stream of bad news we're bombarded with from day to day with the state of things in the world.

    I honestly believe that subconsciously it effects us all in ways we don't even realize some times and it comes out in ways we couldn't imagine.

    We all need to chill it seems, myself included.

    Take a break, smash a guitar, break a monitor, but nah ... don't leave.

    Well put, Bub!

    We'll not risk another frontal assault-that rabbit's dynamite!!!

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    Re:Done 2013/02/22 22:25:21 (permalink)
    There's been a few times I've felt the same way, but I've come back. Sometimes a break is good. 

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    Re:Done 2013/02/22 23:15:41 (permalink)
    All we really need is X2b. We could all stop zinging lightning bolts at each other and start zinging lightning bolts at Cake again. 
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    Re:Done 2013/02/22 23:18:41 (permalink)
    Alex I for one will miss your contribution. I know sometimes helping someone and debating others can be frustrating. I decided that I won't debate, or get excited, or get into in heated discussions about useless things unless we have a troll. 

    If it matters at all, I always enjoy reading what you have to say. Your a bright guy and your input has value.

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    Re:Done 2013/02/22 23:20:30 (permalink)
    Hey guys ! 

    YES !! There is a weird vibe on this forum lately ... 

    My opinion on all this .... (and a bit more)

    It seems nowadays that DAW and digital audio is everyone ... everyone expect to install this stupid DAW software and make music right away .. well. bad news .. it's never like that ... it never was ... probably never will be ... some have to be more patient and respectful with others that only are trying their best to help and support a product they love for free..

    I don't understand why people assume that Cakewalk did put out such a defective product, and feel free to bash it... 
    Sonar X2 is among the most stable releases CW has ever done ... 

    It's still not perfect, but they put so much efforts in crafting what could be the best DAW (more than anyone else IMHO)... that we can't really blame them for trying... downside is it might come with more bugs than if they did another Sonar 8.5 ... 


    On my part, I must say I appreciate when someone takes time to help me out .. Alex did recently for me, as he does for lots of people it seems ... same for Bob, Bub, and so many others that seems to take a hit on the forums lately ... 

    While it's anyone's choice to stay, or leave this forum, I want to take this opportunity to thank everyone who contributes to this forum, 
    it's a nice place to find answers and in the end, make Sonar more powerful and stable for all of us... let not the bad vibe ruin this..

    Cheers !

    V




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    Re:Done 2013/02/23 00:24:31 (permalink)
    Alex,im another one you may or may not know listen to a lot of what you have to say.
    i think your a smart guy with a lot to offer this forum.

    We are so passionate as musicians that it over flows in our suggestions and in our words we have to offer others.
    You,I,were are no different.


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    Re:Done 2013/02/23 01:06:55 (permalink)
    I'm in agreement with the "it's cabin fever" comment. We're all lacking in the vitamin D that the sun gives us and the freedom everyone feels when we get outdoors.

    Don't leave in haste.

    Notation, the original DAW. Everything else is just rote. We are who we are and no more than another. Humans, you people are crazy.
     
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    Re:Done 2013/02/23 01:21:15 (permalink)
    Something I've learned from 25 years as a software developer, and it's the same regardless of which level of seniority I've held, is that there are two critical milestones:

    (1) Done
    (2) Done Done

    The first one, Done, is when a project is said to be complete.  The second, Done Done, is when it really is complete.

    Hopefully we're just speaking about the former here.
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    Re:Done 2013/02/23 01:46:26 (permalink)
    If I may be so bold as to say what a shame it would be to lose any of the regulars on this forum.  I rarely post but visit almost daily and take in what is written here good and bad.  I have come to understand some of the personalities and really appreciate the ones that are sincerely helpful.  The forum AND the software have been a big positive for me, I wouldn't hang around if it weren't so.  Point being, I would guess there are a lot more people like me in here than you think--- and the regulars that take the time to lend advice are more appreciated than you might know.  Thanks all.

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    Re:Done 2013/02/23 06:56:07 (permalink)
    I know this about posting and reacting:

    if you want to get upset, you'll get upset

    if you want to not take it so seriously, you'll roll it off with a laugh 
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    Re:Done 2013/02/23 07:16:10 (permalink)
    Agree wholeheartedly with HooliStudios. Well said.

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    Re:Done 2013/02/23 07:36:59 (permalink)
    Alex, I value your contributions and would be extremely sorry to see you leave.

    If people don't want to take your advice, then that's up to them.

    And don't get drawn into any flame wars with other members - life's too short for any of that carp!

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    Re:Done 2013/02/23 07:51:52 (permalink)
    Alex - What I try to do is correspond with the OP and ignore all the hot air in between.

    Having said that I also probably help almost as much by PM nowadays. Sometimes users don't want to post their problem for fear of some of the replies they might get. That is a sad state of affairs........but I guess that's the internet.

    Just filter the BS and carry on with the genuine topics. That's my take on it.
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    Re:Done 2013/02/23 08:16:47 (permalink)
    CakeAlexS


    After this thread
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?high=&m=2786480&mpage=2#2787145

    I've had enough. These forums are impossible. You can't even help a person resolve a technical issue nowadays without somebody being on the attack or somebody giving advice based on a thread they haven't read (thinking its their own thread or something) or actual facts.

    I'm sure some people will be happy to see me go.

    Bye.
    Truthfully I don't think anyone gives much one way or the other about who leaves or who stays.
     
    There's been plenty of good people that have left before and the place rolls on regardless.
     
    If you can't cope with the idea that someone isn't lapping up everything you say without being outraged by it you probably wouldn't last that long here anyway.
     
    I happen to agree with what ohgrant was trying to tell you and warning the OP he stood a fair chance of bricking his PC by taking your advice.  If you had a problem with that then it's clearly YOUR problem.
     
    I keep my BIOS updated but there is no way on Earth I would take the responsibility of advising anyone to do the same because of the dire consequences of what could happen if it goes awry.
     
    Interesting words used in that emboldened section as having observed your input here I'd say you've described yourself pretty much down to a tee there.
     
    Leave or don't, nobody really will be that bothered either way when it comes down to it despite the 'love' that may get shown on this thread.  You'll just go down as another forum suicide, yet another victim of throwing a self-inflicted hissy fit for not getting ones own way.
     
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    post edited by Jonbouy - 2013/02/23 08:27:46

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    Re:Done 2013/02/23 08:36:56 (permalink)
    jb101


    I won't be, Alex.
     
    I have felt the same recently, but we can't leave because of dullards.
     
    I have started posting less, because fighting the poor wretches can seem a little tiresome.
     
    Just laugh at them.  Some of the people on here who used to wind me up now provide my daily comedy.
     
    You know Sonar is working for you, so take pleasure in their misery.  PM people if you have good help for them and stupid people argue with your advice.
     
    Now just watch as they all turn up to air their ignorance in public.. (sits back with popcorn..)
    edited for clarity
     
    Some nicely reasoned constructive points of debate you added there...  You're obviously way above all the other 'poopy-panted' types you seem to refer to in your post.
     
    Hey, JB101 I love that original "Admittedly, it is difficult to reason people out of positions they didn't use reason to attain." quote in your sig.  What did you use to attain it.  Irony?
     
    Sounds like some bit of reworked and cliched wisdom that Anderson fella would have come out with.  Only a shameless bum-nuzzling sycophant would adopt that as a signature surely?
     
    But then in your eyes I probably have 'poopy-pants' anyway.
     

     
    Gotta love it here who would want to leave?
    post edited by Jonbouy - 2013/02/23 08:56:32

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    Re:Done 2013/02/23 09:13:20 (permalink)
    It is impossible to leave here... I've tried, but there's too much good stuff to ignore.

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    Sidroe
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    Re:Done 2013/02/23 09:17:35 (permalink)
    All of us on this forum have had run-ins or been attacked at one time or another for whatever reasons. It would be a shame to lose any of the established posters in here. We all do learn so much from each other when we're having a problem. Alex has been around a while and he has helped a lot of us with his experiences. I would hate to see anyone that has contributed as much leave. I just hope before he goes he realizes that he has much to contribute to this forum and some of us still value the help that he can give.

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    Re:Done 2013/02/23 09:33:09 (permalink)
    synkrotron


    It is impossible to leave here... 


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    Re:Done 2013/02/23 09:42:11 (permalink)
    Reading this thread, and especially since there were MP posts recently in other threads; I have always be inspired by this:

    Igor: It's times like this that I remember what my old dad used to say. 

    Dr. Friedrich von Frankenstein: What was that? 

    Igor: "What the hell are you doing in the bathroom all day and night? Why don't you get out of there and give someone else a chance?"



    OK. Maybe something more relevant and musical artist related?:

    There you go man, keep as cool as you can
    Face piles and piles of trials with smiles
    It riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave
    And keep on thinking free



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