DrumMap breaks Session Drummer 3. Is the Problem linked to Aperggiator?

I'm having a 8.5.1 problem with drum maps.

I can't get them to play thru when using my keyboard.

I've seen this with Kontakt 3.5 and Battery and Session Drummer 3.

I can play the keyboard when the MIDI track output is set for the synth.

If I reset the MIDI track output to a drum map I get no MIDI activity. FWIW, I have the outputs of the drum map correctly assigned to the correct synth.

I went around and around trying to find a problem with the drum maps.

If I open this project in SONAR v8.3.1. I can play the keyboard thru both a direct output or the very same drum maps.


Today I noticed that if I activate the Arpeggiator that SONAR immediately recognizes MIDI activity and produces sound while the output is set to the drum map.

Did the Arpeggiator come at the expense of easy use of drum map?

Maybe I've missed a simple dialog check box?

Does anyone know how I can get the keyboard to play thru a drum map without all the arpeggiating?

thanks,
mike

Hey Mike - I'll happily answer this when I can get my mitts on 8.5.  I use a drum maps for a number of things, so hopefully I will be able to shed some light.  I don't have it yet, but I lucked into some "found money" that I believe will get used for this tomorrow.

Fog, can you try it for me with any of your favorite drum map synths?

I have assigned the correct output in Drum Map manager.

The drum map works in the same project in SONAR v8.3.1, but I can not play thru the drum map by using my hardware MIDI controllers. (e.g. Roland keyboard and Korg PadKontrol) in SONAR v8.5.1.

Can any one test their setup with a drum map and a hardware input?

thanks,
mike

 

Originally posted on the "master bug thread" @ http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=1829724

mike_mccue


I'm banging my head against the wall with hardware MIDI controllers and Drum Maps.

re: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=1828702

I'm hoping I'm missing some very simple oversight on my part, but having exahausted everything I know to do and having no response from someone willing to replicate my observation I'm left to wonder if it's me or a bug.

Can someone take a look at drum maps and hardware.

thanks,
mike

Confirmed.
Setup was input "All Inputs omni", output was to an external synth (RS7000)
Inputs checked Roland JunoD, Roland HPD10 & Korg PadKontrol - plays/triggers fine if output set to midi output port; insert a straight through drum map & no play/trigger & No midi activity shows on the track midi activity bar.
No problem in 8.3.1
 
XP Pro SP3 (32bit)

Hi Mike,
 
I'd love to help... but I can't purchase the v8.5 update (due to a problem with the eStore).
I've been trying since the weekend...    

Mike
Same problem here. I've reported this problem to Cakewalk.
It's under investigation CWBRN-1728.

Hey, mike. Did you see my post in the Master Bug thread that I could not reproduce this? I'm still not sure what I'm missing. I tried drum maps sending only to soft synths, only to hardware outs, and both. They all seemed to work fine. Never touched the arpeggiator. Is it only with specific drum synths?


Edit: Maybe it matters what the order of events are in setting up the MIDI and Audio tracks hosting the synth output...? Can you document your procedure briefly?

I made some screen shots in 8.5.1:

Here's Studio Cat's PD2 Jet City with Kontakt 3.5:



Track 23 is using Kontakt 3 1 as it's track output and everything works well.


Here I have switched the track output to a freshly made drum map.



and my keyboard no longer works.

Here I see that the drum map has labeled stuff correctly and I can press on a left margin "name" to sound the drums in Kontakt:



Here's what I have in drum map manager:



And here I have content playing back with the drum map:





The same project with the same drum map works fine in version 8.3.1

I can play my keyboard with the drum map selected as the Track output and I get MIDI activity and hear all the sounds.

Can't do it in version 8.5.1

If I activate the arpeggiator the keyboard immediately begins to work but I have all that annoying arpeggiation going on.

Yuck.

No.

I'd love to find out that I have made some oversight.

What drum map did you load?

I'm envious. Did you see anything in my screenshots that might raise a red flag?

Thanks for the continued examination.

Here's something I just prepared:

version 8.3.1, I'm banging away at keyboard:




version 8.5.1, I'm banging away at keyboard with Arp selected and the MIDI plays thru:
 



Is it the end of keyboards? Arp Baby!

best regards,
mike

But I can still record the input

I can record too - though I cant hear what I'm recording - sometimes small mercies

I thought I tried to record and I thought I got a blank clip.... maybe I'm mistaken. I work on the road today.

I'll test tonight or tomorrow.

Has anyone received a response to their official problem report?

No word here.

Thanks Bruce.