mudgel
Sorry, but i get sick of threads that always want to promote gloom and doom on Cakewalks business model, their expertise at GUI design, programming and the list goes on.

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The more some things change, the more they stay the same.

We can go over this a million times but most of this is pure speculation and really it does not matter to the majority of us who like what we have and will probably stick with it even if the company goes belly up... We'll still have a DAW that does what we want. I really could care less about how many people use DAW X. All software is quirky as far as I can tell and if you don't like that fact then go dust off an old multi track ADAT and have at er.. It's all about what plops out the other end... I love my results and even though it is flawed sometimes Sonar is still as good as it's going to get for me.   

Anderton
That "one-time" wave ended in the mid-90s, 20 years ago.

Now who is making claims without evidence?  Your statement is 180 degrees from what I see in my world.  As of 10 years ago, every major studio in my area still was heavily stocked with loads of hardware.  They used ProTools for sure, but mainly as a replacement for tapes. About half of those studios have shut down.  The others have continued to migrate more and more to software-based processes.
 
But the key question is WHY those studios shut down?  That was partially due to the general decline in earning potential through records.  But it was also due to many people setting up pretty decent studios in their basements.  And that wasn't 20 years ago in my neck of the woods.  It was much more recent.  (I should note that the move to home studios is closely related to the decline in record revenues.  I know a significant number of working musicians who are producing in low budget studios and self-distributing on CD Baby and elsewhere, bypassing the overhead of large studios and record companies.  It can work.  It can be a better business model for a working musician these days.)
 
I realize my experience isn't necessarily the same as what others will see elsewhere.  It certainly isn't reflective of what one might find in LA, NY, or Nashville.  But I have a rather large circle of musician friends.  Almost none of them were involved in DAWs in the 1990s.  Now a fair number of them are working in DAWs or collaborating with other musicians who have DAW expertise.
 
All of this is somewhat beside the point.  Whether the market is collapsing or whether it is just settling in after a one-time transformation, it is not healthy for a product to be in 5th place or 10th place.  I am sorry if my comments have touched a nerve.  But I do think almost everyone would agree that StudioOne has gained a significant share, and I was simply trying to provide some examples of why that is.  But obviously, that isn't welcome discussion here, so I will sit down and shut up.  In the end, it doesn't affect me too much.  I'd like to see SONAR have a strong future.  If that isn't in the cards, I already had to buy the full StudioOne in order to collaborate with colleagues.  And I am likely to switch from Finale to Dorico in the next year, which in turn may push me to buy the full Cubase environment as well.

mudgel
Where do these bizarre numbers come from? 99% of Sonar users do this and most Sonar users do something else. At best you are just making guesses that seem to add strength to your point of view.

Head over to the Bakery and discuss it over there and see what sort of support your ideas get. You never know maybe Cakewalk and the forum members will see merit in your ideas and make changes that please you.

In the mean time i dont think you have a clue as to what the average user wants or thinks about Sonar. It's just speculation that sounds authoritative but really has no substance tio back it up.

Sorry, but i get sick of threads that always want to promote gloom and doom on Cakewalks business model, their expertise at GUI design, programming and the list goes on. For goodness sake if the softwares that bad go use Studio One. I regularly use Studio One for a few special tasks but thats because no software has it all. Not Sonar, Cubase, Pro Tools or any other for that matter.

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