cclarry
IT IS A USEFUL TOOL....I just don't consider it "Ground Breaking".  These things could be done already...howbeit a 
bit more time in the process...it's a "facilitator" ....sound wise...as Jim said, they're not bad, but not on par with AD, SD, or BFD IMO...L,M,N,O,P....

I went over the AD tutorials and found absolutely nothing on how these things are done. Did I just miss the coverage somehow or is there a secret stash of info somewhere that I missed?

montezuma
 
Outrageously fast and insanely complicated suggestions for my SLOW simple tapped beat.
 

Check to see if the preview of clips is set to original clip tempo. Not at my PC now and can't tell ya what it exactly called.

Are you using the demo standalone or in a host? If in a host, and EZD2 is set to follow host, slow the tempo down.

Once you figure out why they are playing fast, and find one that's close,drag it to the clip bar/time line at the bottom. Once the clip is there click on the little arrow on the top left of clip. That will open the player editor. It is here that you can select the velocity for individual parts of the kit, and how much/how busy each piece of the kit will be.

And it's here that you make any clipwhat you want/need.

hth

musicroom
Sound wise, I think EZ2 is fine and usable. I would like sound editing options on individual drums from within the interface. However, as others have mentioned here, it's real strength is the speed of putting together a song. I did this for the first time last night and it was incredibly efficient. Loved it. I even dragged some midi files in from another kit and mixed and matched with EZ2's Nashville midi files. Back to the sound, I have plenty of drum modules to get different sounds from should I feel the need. I see EZ2 as the first step in the process from this point forward. Good thinking and implementation by the toontrack folks!

That is exactly my feelings and approach to both EZ2 and EZkeys...they are GREAT for building
parts and entire songs....then I switch to what I think is best for the job....

It's more of a "Tap to what you hear in your head" kinda thing to me...
but that's just me....

Adjust the "tempo" to the song tempo....



Click on the Tempo and the tempo adjustment slider will show up...that should help...

Oddly enough, I could not find "Sync To host" anywhere....

But, for the click to be in time with the song you must make sure the Tempo in EZ matches the tempo of the song...I think....
 
 
 

Hmmm so it seems that due to technical issues EZD2 is unable to sync with your DAW tempo. I must have watched a misleading marketing video then from Toontrack because in that video the guy recorded guitar...then played back that guitar track in his DAW and used Tap to Find in EZD2. He must have hit play in his DAW exactly on the click track in EZD2. Because the click track in EZD2 won't synch with your DAW...you'll have the click from EZD2 clicking away way off sync with your DAW when you have its click/ metronome enabled. So the only way to get them sycned is to hit play on your DAW right on...bang on the click you hear in EZD2...a terribly unreliable way to go.
 
The video I saw showed the guy just Tapping to Find right over the top of his guitar track. So how did he sync up the EZD2 metronome and his DAW metronome??
 
No doubt I'm missing something
 
Although someone did just note this on the Toontrack site linked earlier:
 
Funny, It's working now.
Perhaps there is a certain sequence that needs to take place. ???
If I start the playback of my Instrument (MIDI) track and then click on the play arrow in the T2F window, they DO sync up.
Sorry about that.

I also wanted to ask this to everyone:
 
Is anyone also noticing that EZD2 is playing "better?"
 
IOW, it sounds more like a real drummer to me.  I just thought it was me and being excited about a new product. But my wife came in and listened to one of my new songs and the first thing she said was "Is that the new EZD?" i told her yes and she said she could tell the difference right off the bat.
 
Anyone else noticing that the drummer is more in the groove?

montezuma
Hmmm so it seems that due to technical issues EZD2 is unable to sync with your DAW tempo. I must have watched a misleading marketing video then from Toontrack because in that video the guy recorded guitar...then played back that guitar track in his DAW and used Tap to Find in EZD2. He must have hit play in his DAW exactly on the click track in EZD2. Because the click track in EZD2 won't synch with your DAW...you'll have the click from EZD2 clicking away way off sync with your DAW when you have its click/ metronome enabled. So the only way to get them sycned is to hit play on your DAW right on...bang on the click you hear in EZD2...a terribly unreliable way to go.
 
The video I saw showed the guy just Tapping to Find right over the top of his guitar track. So how did he sync up the EZD2 metronome and his DAW metronome??
 
No doubt I'm missing something
 
Although someone did just note this on the Toontrack site linked earlier:
 
Funny, It's working now.
Perhaps there is a certain sequence that needs to take place. ???
If I start the playback of my Instrument (MIDI) track and then click on the play arrow in the T2F window, they DO sync up.
Sorry about that.

Hmm, yes, I have got the same issue....not that it is important to my workflow, but indeed I can't get the metronome to reliably synch with the host (sure the tempo synchs, but the measure-start doesn't automatically)

Rain
I just did another quick test after I bounced a demo and noticed that it suffered from the same issue as everything I use EZ on.
 
Using two supposedly similar retro kits, one in Kontakt and one in EZ, both as flat as possible, I captured this EQ curve with Logic's Match EQ.  It shows the kind of EQ'ing required to get the Toontrack drums to sound closer to the (imho) relatively more natural sounding NI drums. 
 
 

 
Hence the scooped sound.

Pretty radical differences. And that's only the frequency domain. The dynamics are also incredibly different. 

Good info Rain...thanx!

cclarry

montezuma
Hmmm so it seems that due to technical issues EZD2 is unable to sync with your DAW tempo. I must have watched a misleading marketing video then from Toontrack because in that video the guy recorded guitar...then played back that guitar track in his DAW and used Tap to Find in EZD2. He must have hit play in his DAW exactly on the click track in EZD2. Because the click track in EZD2 won't synch with your DAW...you'll have the click from EZD2 clicking away way off sync with your DAW when you have its click/ metronome enabled. So the only way to get them sycned is to hit play on your DAW right on...bang on the click you hear in EZD2...a terribly unreliable way to go.
 
The video I saw showed the guy just Tapping to Find right over the top of his guitar track. So how did he sync up the EZD2 metronome and his DAW metronome??
 
No doubt I'm missing something
 
Although someone did just note this on the Toontrack site linked earlier:
 
Funny, It's working now.
Perhaps there is a certain sequence that needs to take place. ???
If I start the playback of my Instrument (MIDI) track and then click on the play arrow in the T2F window, they DO sync up.
Sorry about that.

Ok...I brought EZ2 into a host that I had changed the default tempo on and it automatically synced.
There was also a "Follow Host" button down in the transport section that does not appear when
using it in stand alone...so that could be the issue, make sure the tempo is set correctly in the host
and EZ2 should follow it...

 The issue is not that the temp itself doesn't synch (it does, as long as the follow host button has been pushed), but that the DAW timeline is not necessarily in synch with the metronome in EZ2; i.e. it could be that the "1" of the metronome is on the 2nd beat of the DAW transport/timeline. It won't drift or anything (as the tempos are equal), but it's not in perfect synch (the one is not the one). I tested this in 2 hosts....but maybe I'm overlooking something
 
 

jmasno5
I sent this to Toontrack this morning:
"Superior Drummer 2.0 is not finding my EZ Drummer 2 (Modern and Vintage) Kits or the Pop Rock kit automatically. I navigated to the sound libraries but now it asked me to authorize even though they are and play fine in my EZ Drummer 2 program. Something is not right."
 
Any fellow Sonarians in the same boat?  Also, is there a was to search only this thread? 
 
Toontrack responed:
 
Toontrack Support (Toontrack)
May 14 10:40 AM
"The EZdrummer 2 sound libraries cannot yet be used in Superior 2.0. There will be a Superior software update released to address this issue, however we do not have the ETA for this update."

Yes, this is something that was noted in the webcasts prior to the release of EZdrummer 2.  They said that an update for Superior Drummer would be coming out to address this issue.  As soon as it's ready, your issues will be taken care of.
 

montezuma
 
Yeah I need to be able to play my song in my DAW while I Tap to Find...if I can't tap to the sound of my song that leaves me with having to tap to the song in my head...which is nuts...tapping to silence...to a click track...yeah you can do it...but how much better to tap to your song as you're listening to it?

I don't think you are likely to get the Tap to Find Metronome to sync with the Host tempo unless you hit the button at the right time.  It's my opinion that the Tap to Find click is working "as intended."  I base my reason on the presence of a Tempo knob in the vicinity of the Tap to Find window.  If the TTF click was supposed to sync with the host tempo there would be no adjustment for guys like me who can't play as fast as we might like and be accurate.

That said, I think you should continue to state your case for the need for syncing the Tap to Find click and post a feature request for it.  I know FRs work because I've been hammering on the need for a search engine for drum grooves since EZdrummer first came out.  I also posted requests for an EZ keyboards program, so I know they listen to suggestions.

Last word -
EZD2 has been great. Building a song has been cut in half the amount of time. When I'm in my studio with an idea nothing sucks the life out of it like searching for drum patterens even though it was better than the old days when I step timed the midi notes for each pattern.
Currently my work flow is to build the song in standalone mode. When I reopen EZd2 in Sonar I import the patterns one at a time otherwise you get this real long midi block. The other reason is that you can open the shorter patterns in the Step Sequencer if need be. And yes, you can leave the patterns in EZd2 and sync with Sonar with the Follow Host feature although you have to be on the same measure in both programs. Once I am happy, I open Superior Drummer 2. I install the same drum kit. SD2 offers much more control for EZd2 EZX kits. Mainly the bleeds. The 16bit EZX kits sound great too! I have so many plugins that try to dirty up the sound with vinage era noise that I can't see me having to use 24bit drums. I go for the smooth sound and try to kick out the digital sound. Sometimes I let SD2 render the drum tracks but if the song isn't too big Sonar does fine work of it too.