EzMix Mastering €39

More ez snake oil from toontrack.
There's one born every minute.

I think it's rather obvious, don't you?

pathos


I think it's rather obvious, don't you?

I guess not.  Sorry I'm so thick headed.  I mean EZDrummer and Superior2 (and all their expansion packs)both work just dandy and sound great and have been used on countless record releases and EZMIX is a quick and (yes) "easy" way to get good sounding tracks when mixing...The Chuck Ainly presets are a standout...and even though I'll agree there's never any shortage of "suckers" as you imply all of the thousands of folks you own and use Toon products can't all be rubes who just fell off the turnip truck.  So could you more narrowly describe your problem with their products in general (or specific)?
 

I think the before and after on their website sound good!

LANEY


I think the before and after on their website sound good!

I have to agree. I'm contemplating this bad boy.

Yeah, the first thing that came to mind for me was...CJ and his bada** masterin' self.

LANEY


There are 46 presets with this pack and about 16 of them are great. the rest......well  you decice

How tweakble are these? More, less of the same as all other EZMix presets (i.e. two dials)?

Two dials??  From Nomad Factory?

 The way the advertising for this product comes across to me is that it puts you in the ball park. It might even get pretty close to being there or good enough in some situations.

 Lets face it, most people like EZ anything. I have limited time so I like the concept of something that gets me there or close quickly. I ended up with Alloy/Ozone so I'm not in the market for yet another similar product. You never know though, I might get GAS again. It's so unpredictable and  the price sure looks good on it.

 Probably the toughest thing for a veteran of mixing to accept or admit is that what took a long time to learn and impliment can now be closely copied with products like these.

 Just my .00002

I'm with Yorolpal! I've been using ezDrummer for two years now and I love the sound and results.  Toontrack provides a very valuable product and I support their products. 

I wouldn't compare Ozone and ezMix though.  Different products, different price points and different capabilities.  You either want to spend a fair amount of time learning how to "master" a recording or you don't. I actually enjoy spending time with Ozone but that's my opnion.  Just like I used to spend hours programming drum tracks and was never satisfied with the results.  But now I get the results I want quickly with ezDrummer and I can focus on playing guitar, my real instrument.

In any case, if you don't want their products, don't buy them. The free market has a funny way of sorting these things out.

I believe there's a place for everyone at the table.  I sparsely use my EZMix2...when I'm needing to get something done ASAP...but it works a treat when I do.  But I'm all for (and do myownself) learning and knowing how to use every single piece of kit you use well and not relying on somone elses presets for everything you do.  That said things like EZMix are time savers and can be great teaching tools.  I also think that the definition of "mastering" is getting both changed and diminished.  While it is certainly possible with current available tools to "master" your own work, for critical projects I would still recommend getting it done at a proper mastering lab by a competent mastering engineer. 

Could anyone do a worst job using EZ Mix mastering presets than, say, what the presumably pro mastering engineer did to Metallica's Death Magnetic, or the guy who did Depeche Mode's Playing the Angel, or the guy who butchered those Deep Purple's remastered classics?

Rain


Could anyone do a worst job using EZ Mix mastering presets than, say, what the presumably pro mastering engineer did to Metallica's Death Magnetic, or the guy who did Depeche Mode's Playing the Angel, or the guy who butchered those Deep Purple's remastered classics?

Yes & don't kid yourself.
EZ mix/ mastering is aimed at consumers wanting to emulate these artists' sound that you speak so highly of. 

Rain


Could anyone do a worst job using EZ Mix mastering presets than, say, what the presumably pro mastering engineer did to Metallica's Death Magnetic, or the guy who did Depeche Mode's Playing the Angel, or the guy who butchered those Deep Purple's remastered classics?

To be fair, the mastering engineer on Death Magnetic publicly disavowed the album and asked to not have his name listed in the credits. He said the record came to him in that condition, and blame should go to the producer. Maybe they were using EZMix.


And while we're listing examples of horrid mastering, let's not forget the travesty that was the remaster of George Harrison's All Things Must Pass. Rush's Vapor Trails, too, as long as I'm complaining about my favorite bands being raped in the mastering room.

It was a rush job.