Multiband on Vocals

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May 18, 07 3:02 PM (permalink)

Multiband on Vocals

My question is this: Is it important to use a mulitband compressor on vocals?

In most of my mixes, it seems as though the vocals need to be "smoothed" out........it's not that the equalization is bad on the vocals, its just that it doesn't seem to sit right in the mix. When i listen to commercial recordings of vocals they all seem to sound much "smoother". There isn't an excessive amount of high frequencies or mids etc.

I have a few multiband compressors at my disposal : Waves C4, Wav Arts Multidynamics, Sonitus Mulitband.

How should i use the multiband? I know how to work a compressor, but the multiband is obvoiusly more complicated. What should i make the knees, the attack, release etc?

Any feedback on this topic is appreciated. Links too.

Thanks guys,

Jeff
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    droddey
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    RE: Multiband on Vocals May 18, 07 3:15 PM (permalink)
    It would probably help for everyone to hear a short section where you feel it's not working. Otherwise, it's just a wild guess as to what you might need.

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    RE: Multiband on Vocals May 18, 07 3:38 PM (permalink)
    There's nothing special about vocals that requires a multiband compressor - except maybe for de-essing. De-essing is a common use of a multiband on a vocal track. However, if you do have an excessive amount of high frequencies (or any other frequencies) a multiband compressor is worth trying. A multiband compressor is basically a regular compressor with the same controls repeated for each band. Play with the Sonitus multiband and you will see this. a Multiband compressor may be better than using EQ because EQ will simply raise or lower the band in question, whereas the compressor will only raise or lower it if it reaches the threshold, like a regular compressor. Therefore it will not, for instance, lower the band in question except at the locations in the song where that particular band is "excessive" as you put it. Basically, if it is only the high frequencies you are worried about, you really only need one band - set that band to the problem frequcney range, and turn all the other bands off.

    By the way, the Sonitus multiband has a "smooth" preset. I can't tell you how well it works but it's worth a shot.
    post edited by Mick - May 18, 07 3:41 PM

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    RE: Multiband on Vocals May 18, 07 3:38 PM (permalink)
    Plus....please list your entire vocal chain, including mic, pre, A/D converter, and sample/bit rate.

    Much of the harshness probably comes from the mic or pre....just a guess.
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    RE: Multiband on Vocals May 18, 07 3:47 PM (permalink)
    Multiband compression is normally used for remedial purposes, to fix something that wasn't recorded properly to begin with. I wouldn't recommend using it routinely.

    As you suspect, the multiband compressor is much more difficult to use properly. Consequently, the chances of causing more harm than good are high. That alone is reason enough to leave it for those situations where it is truly called for.

    It sounds like your issues are more to do with EQ than compression, but without hearing your mixes I'm just guessing of course.

    Most commercial vocal tracks use judicious amounts of reverb and/or delay, and they are often double tracked, sometimes with the second track heavily compressed. These techniques all work to smooth out the vocal.
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