RockinRoll 
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Project 3.0 ???
What ever happened to Project 3.0? It has been quite a while since 2.5 was put out and 3.0 was promised. Did Cakewalk drop 3.0?
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/11 01:09:46
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I don't recall P5 v3.0 being promised. Cite?
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/11 08:13:23
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ORIGINAL: RockinRoll
What ever happened to Project 3.0? It has been quite a while since 2.5 was put out and 3.0 was promised. Did Cakewalk drop 3.0?
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Project5 3.0 was not promised by Cakewalk...just speculated on by forum members in lots of posts over the last few months. We are all expecting it to come but it will be a surprise announcement when it does and it will likely be "quite a while" more before it hits.
2.5 was release 2nd quarter of 2007 so it has been generally available a lot less than "quite a while" ago. It is only 8 months old.
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/11 08:52:35
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All I want is a darker interface. I hate that bright screen. Give me more options, like in Sonar, and I'd be completely happy.
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/11 10:14:53
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This is true, there has never been an official Project5 v3.0 announcement from Cakewalk. However I predict there will be one at NAMM next week. If not, it's hard to speculate what the future of P5 will be.
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/11 11:07:05
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Nick P is right. There WAS another "update" promised by the "end of the year" but not at a version x.0 upgrade.
I agree that if we do not hear anything at NAMM it will be time to re-evaluate.
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RockinRoll
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/14 12:19:21
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Well, I may be off on my numbering but not on the fact that Cakewalk had promised another update. It's funny how excited they were to brag about two updates at the time but now they have lost their tongue.
Pretty sure P5 isn't really making them all that much money, so they are probably cutting resources.
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/14 13:07:39
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Pretty sure P5 isn't really making them all that much money, so they are probably cutting resources is there information behind this speculation? do you have a source that works at the Dunkin Donuts in the lobby? I do wonder if Dunkin Donuts lost their power due to construction at the same scheduled time the Cakewalk forum server went down?
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/14 19:16:50
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Pretty sure P5 isn't really making them all that much money, so they are probably cutting resources
is there information behind this speculation?
do you have a source that works at the Dunkin Donuts in the lobby?
I do wonder if Dunkin Donuts lost their power due to construction at the same scheduled time the Cakewalk forum server went down?
They probably had a genset--especially if they knew a bunch of Cakewalk employees may be twiddling thumbs...
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RockinRoll
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/14 19:18:24
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Pretty sure P5 isn't really making them all that much money, so they are probably cutting resources
is there information behind this speculation?
do you have a source that works at the Dunkin Donuts in the lobby?
I do wonder if Dunkin Donuts lost their power due to construction at the same scheduled time the Cakewalk forum server went down?
that Absolutely not! Krispy Kreme ... sheez :D
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/14 21:30:30
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This is true, there has never been an official Project5 v3.0 announcement from Cakewalk. However I predict there will be one at NAMM next week. If not, it's hard to speculate what the future of P5 will be.
I think they (cakewalk) are having to tread very carefully here. With Sonar 7 sporting a step sequencer isn't it starting to tread a little bit on P5s toes? Where will the S7 step sequencer go in the future? Will P5 just be merged into Sonar in the not-to-distant future?
We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse.
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Nick P
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/15 00:31:43
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ORIGINAL: LostChord
...Will P5 just be merged into Sonar in the not-to-distant future?
We can only hope!
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RockinRoll
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/15 11:57:43
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...Will P5 just be merged into Sonar in the not-to-distant future?
We can only hope!
Agree 100%. Note that one of the features being bounced around by Cakewalk was to make it a VSTi that would run inside of Sonar or any other sequencer. That would actually make P5 useful and they could take it cross platform. Hmmmm, marketing ... you looking at this?
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Nick P
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/15 18:08:55
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This should happen. How many of P5's features are standard DAW MIDI/audio record/playback features which are already in Sonar? So take the unique features and make them available right from within Sonar. Charge a premium price for it, or as an add-on. I don't care. Just makes it easier to use.
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/15 18:39:38
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I don't wnat Project 5 to become Sonar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want it to be what it is. Great for Live work. If it gets like Sonar I'd be forced to buy Live 7. I would rather keep giving my money to Cakewalk  , What I need is the gapless audio or near gapless audio in project 5 but with multi-core support. I just hope the darn motor-boating doesn't come to bite project5 big time like it has some Sonar users, me included. Ed
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techead
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/15 18:41:29
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I don't wnat Project 5 to become Sonar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+1 . I like both applications and their differing approaches as music tools.
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RockinRoll
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/15 19:44:54
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I don't wnat Project 5 to become Sonar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want it to be what it is. Great for Live work.
If it gets like Sonar I'd be forced to buy Live 7.
I would rather keep giving my money to Cakewalk, What I need is the gapless audio or near gapless audio in project 5 but with multi-core support. I just hope the darn motor-boating doesn't come to bite project5 big time like it has some Sonar users, me included.
Ed
In other words, you really need Live but you do not want to spend the money on it. :) I cannot see how anyone could seriously work Live with P5. That engine gaps like crazy ... hmmm ... maybe we can just call it a new genre ... gapped rap/techno/dance!!!!!! I crack myself up!!!!! Other than the synth's there is really not much there, even the reviewers only really talk about and use the synth's.
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techead
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/15 20:26:25
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Other than the synth's there is really not much there, even the reviewers only really talk about and use the synth's.
Yeah..."not much there".  There is a lot packed into a little in Project5. The simplicity is what makes it so rich and useable and helps creativity.
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RockinRoll
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/17 21:01:31
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Ok.
So really, no one gives a pooh about being promised two updates and getting only one?
P5 has gone stone cold.
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techead
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/17 22:14:23
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Only the whiners give a pooh. Project5 sizzles hotly on my machine.
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/17 22:21:48
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No I'm not whining, but I was hoping for multi-core support  It Is I really like Project 5 for turning on loading up truepianos, some pads in Dim pro or Rapture. and playing around.I never thought I like the grove matrix and find I am using it for round sons with my daughter, go figure  I totally agree I don't want Project5 to become Sonar. I already have Sonar. I just need a little more muscle from Project5 to make me really happy.
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/17 23:03:48
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...Will P5 just be merged into Sonar in the not-to-distant future?
We can only hope!
please speak for yourself.
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/18 02:34:05
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Your Moment of Zen. Web presence does not equal development. Lack of web presence does not equal lack of development. Different is not necessarily better. Different is not necessarily worse. Your needs are not necessarily my needs, and visa versa. Predicting the future is the pastime of fools and the business of charlatans. ...Hey, I like that last one. That's a keeper.
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RockinRoll
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/18 13:10:42
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Your Moment of Zen.
Web presence does not equal development.
Lack of web presence does not equal lack of development.
Different is not necessarily better. Different is not necessarily worse.
Your needs are not necessarily my needs, and visa versa.
Predicting the future is the pastime of fools and the business of charlatans.
...Hey, I like that last one. That's a keeper.
Confucius says that is a bunch of poo! There are some serious requested features left on the table from 2.5 and there are plenty that were hoping to see them show in the next release. Multi Core is one that is well overdue, greater integration was also left on the table with a tease of a VST implementation. You can stick your Bhudda in the air and your head in the ground, but Cakewalk is remiss on their part and this software appears to be headed nowhere but the bargain bin it is already in.
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/18 16:23:05
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Confucius says that is a bunch of poo!
There are some serious requested features left on the table from 2.5 and there are plenty that were hoping to see them show in the next release.
Multi Core is one that is well overdue, greater integration was also left on the table with a tease of a VST implementation.
You can stick your Bhudda in the air and your head in the ground, but Cakewalk is remiss on their part and this software appears to be headed nowhere but the bargain bin it is already in.
'Appears to be' being the operative word. 'Appears to be to you ' would be my response. We've gone through this chicken little bit twice already. I was one the ones shouting 'the sky is falling' the first time around, but I've learned better with regards to Cake. They deliver. Unless you're privy to some inside information about their update cycle or future plans, there's no reason for anyone to believe that the point update isn't coming and won't be major. And for the record, we're at 2.5.1
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RockinRoll
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/18 18:02:25
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ORIGINAL: RockinRoll
Confucius says that is a bunch of poo!
There are some serious requested features left on the table from 2.5 and there are plenty that were hoping to see them show in the next release.
Multi Core is one that is well overdue, greater integration was also left on the table with a tease of a VST implementation.
You can stick your Bhudda in the air and your head in the ground, but Cakewalk is remiss on their part and this software appears to be headed nowhere but the bargain bin it is already in.
'Appears to be' being the operative word. 'Appears to be to you ' would be my response. We've gone through this chicken little bit twice already. I was one the ones shouting 'the sky is falling' the first time around, but I've learned better with regards to Cake. They deliver. Unless you're privy to some inside information about their update cycle or future plans, there's no reason for anyone to believe that the point update isn't coming and won't be major.
And for the record, we're at 2.5.1
Then you are fully aware that there is another update promised and due? And that Cakewalk has not made a mention of it for what years? A little behind is one thing but this is ridiculous. Let's see if we can get a courteous Cakewalk representative to help out ;)
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/18 18:50:26
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Then you are fully aware that there is another update promised and due? And that Cakewalk has not made a mention of it for what years? A little behind is one thing but this is ridiculous.
Let's see if we can get a courteous Cakewalk representative to help out ;)
As per the other two threads you posted the same message, its only 18 days late (so far). Im beginning to see a pattern form here.
post edited by syrath - 2008/01/18 19:06:08
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/18 23:06:39
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Then you are fully aware that there is another update promised and due? And that Cakewalk has not made a mention of it for what years? A little behind is one thing but this is ridiculous.
2.5.1 is certainly the incremental update they said they'd release before the new year that has just come and gone. The 3.0 update has been promised, but no timetable has been implied that I'm aware of other than a vague 'this year' meaning 2008. I really don't understand what the wailing and gnashing of teeth is about.
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/19 01:48:29
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Then you are fully aware that there is another update promised and due? And that Cakewalk has not made a mention of it for what years? A little behind is one thing but this is ridiculous.
You have taken the opportunity to post in every thread you can about how "Cakewalk owe us a promised features update" and how "they haven't said anything about P5 for years". All of which is a lie. It would appear that your only purpose in these forums is to spread false information in order to discredit Cakewalk. You act like a troll. If you aren't, then please do a search, as it seems you're relatively new to these forums, and read the official press releases, so you give yourself an idea of the Project-5 timeline. Otherwise, it is you who's not fully aware of the facts.
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RE: Project 3.0 ???
2008/01/19 10:55:02
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...Will P5 just be merged into Sonar in the not-to-distant future?
We can only hope!
Agree 100%.
Note that one of the features being bounced around by Cakewalk was to make it a VSTi that would run inside of Sonar or any other sequencer. That would actually make P5 useful and they could take it cross platform.
Not that I would necessarily mind having p5 work as a visti inside other hosts, but you can currently accomplish the same thing through rewire.
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