Jonathan1977
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Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
In Sonar 7, a great deal of midi improvement have been done. It's wonderful. But I am still waiting for the rest of my wish......in Sonar 7.2 or Sonar 8. 1.A must have function---- show the note name of the midi event in the piano view window. In this way it is more easy to recognize and edit the chord. 2.Add a Parabola draw tool in the Piano view window. It can save us lots of time when editting controllers such as experssion and pitchbend envet .Very very important and useful. 4. Add a Quantize Ends Command in the Quantize menu, by whicn we can quantize selected notes' endtime. 6.Open a vsti or dxi instrument interface directly in the Piano view would be very convenient if Possible. 7.Please show the program change event in the Controller Lane. In that case I can edit this event . For example, when I use a Kontakt 2 strings bank, in the first note I use program 2--- violins p-f short instrument, in the next note I use program 11 -- Violins short instrumet, then in the next phase I use program 12 --Fast Run Down instrument, and so on. But in sonar, the program change event doen't show in the controller lane, it's very hard to do such thing.
post edited by Jonathan1977 - 2007/10/21 11:23:53
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/21 14:02:28
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1.A must have function---- show the note name of the midi event in the piano view window. In this way it is more easy to recognize and edit the chord. Doesn't the event inpector view show this regardless of where you have selected the event? 4. Add a Quantize Ends Command in the Quantize menu, by whicn we can quantize selected notes' endtime. The quantize has the ability to do starts and /or ends. are you looking for an automatic ends only?
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Jonathan1977
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/22 01:27:45
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1.Show the note name like this :  2.I want to automatically quantize all the note's end point. Not for the length only.
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/22 02:03:20
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I love that piano roll. I was gonna do just what you did. Draw the name on the bars. That looks good. It would save lots of time finding bad notes and looking at harmony structures. That's one thing I do in the staff view for now, because it is easier that PR till we get this!!! Then this will be much better.
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/22 03:33:48
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Great idea with the notenames on the bars!
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/22 05:35:52
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ORIGINAL: Jonathan1977
1.A must have function---- show the note name of the midi event in the piano view window. In this way it is more easy to recognize and edit the chord.
Ah, this would enhance visibility! To please everyone, it could be an option. :) ORIGINAL: Jonathan1977
2.Add a Parabola draw tool in the Piano view window. It can save us lots of time when editting controllers such as experssion
and pitchbend envet .Very very important and useful.
You mean like vectorized drawing tools for curves and such? Yes! I've been wanting that for ages... ORIGINAL: Jonathan1977
6.Open a vsti or dxi instrument interface directly in the Piano view would be very convenient if Possible.
Yes, much needed!
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/22 06:56:04
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Jonathan1977
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/22 08:52:22
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Such function has been added since Cubase Sx 2.0. Now it is time for Sonar to overcome it.
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/22 09:28:52
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All of this interest in Sonars midi implementation at last! Now, where were you all when Sonar 1.0 was released and I was moaning on about all these things - nobody was interested - I was crying in the wilderness. You lot didn't even notice that Sonar didn't have a bloody metronome! Well, it's too late now, the only way Sonars midi will get fixed is by a total rewrite and redesign - if you'd been more vocal and sensible in the first place, you'd have had all of this by now. I would trade good and reliable midi editing for all of these :- Audiosnap, Track Icons, Cakewalk Publisher, TAO CD burning, DimensionLE, RaptureLE, Z3ta+, PsynII, Roland Groove synth, All of the "Extra free loops and sample content" that has ever been bundled, The Console View, The Staff View, Track Layers, ACT, Cakewalk Audio Finder, Segmented audio meters, Waveform view meters... !IRONY WARNING! This post contains comments and opinions made with regard to a form of humour known as Irony. This hopefuly gives me a "get out" if I've offended anyone. And yet sometimes, there is truth said in jest. Jim
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/22 11:03:43
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Wow, I'll +1 that, that would really make editing in the PRV faster and more tactile.
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/22 11:08:32
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Sounds like a great idea....I'm all for it! This would push me even more towards a Sonar 7 upgrade!
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/22 11:20:40
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I've only just learned what the MIDI acronym stands for.
There's obviously a whole lot more I don't know. Weren't the recent MIDI enhancements any help? S7 is only out 1 month and already its deficient in so many areas. And yet they added more MIDI functionality didn't they?
I'm being serious: Weren't all these new MIDI features any help?
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/22 11:33:58
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ORIGINAL: mudgel
I've only just learned what the MIDI acronym stands for.
There's obviously a whole lot more I don't know. Weren't the recent MIDI enhancements any help? S7 is only out 1 month and already its deficient in so many areas. And yet they added more MIDI functionality didn't they?
I'm being serious: Weren't all these new MIDI features any help?
Of course they were!! The new editing features are a great help,,, that doesn't mean they included every feature that might be on someones wish list.  I like the idea of note names on the PRV, too. In the mean time, I'll share a little visualization trick. Think of the lines in the PRV lines like keys. Two dark lines fall between CDE, three dark lines FGAB. The dark lines are sharps or flats. It really helps to think of it that way, and with a little self training, you can easily figure out what note you're on. It's just like a keyboard. Having this will help people learn the note names on a keyboard, if you're not familiar with them.
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/22 16:37:03
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I like your ideas... have you submitted them to the feature request system? http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/FeatureRequest.asp As for 6) Open a vsti or dxi instrument interface directly in the Piano view would be very convenient if Possible. -- I've asked for something similar. Considering all the customization you can do in Sonar, it is SHOCKING to me that you can not do a key binding to open a VSTi interface! Okay, maybe shocking is too strong of a word. But there is definitely more work for Cakewalk to do on the MIDI and for composers in general, even with the great progress they made (thanks!) on 7.
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/22 16:53:36
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Great idea, I'm in on this campaign It would be a wonderful efficiency enhancement to the PRV! ORIGINAL: Jonathan1977
1.Show the note name like this :
2.I want to automatically quantize all the note's end point. Not for the length only.
post edited by LabDog - 2007/10/22 17:06:47
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/22 16:59:03
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Yep, great suggestion. Just put a vote in at the feature request site.
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/22 16:59:34
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Yup, amazing this has not been previously suggested! Great idea. What's that I smell? Something fresh from the oven?
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/23 06:12:28
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ORIGINAL: eratu
I like your ideas... have you submitted them to the feature request system? http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/FeatureRequest.asp
As for 6) Open a vsti or dxi instrument interface directly in the Piano view would be very convenient if Possible. -- I've asked for something similar. Considering all the customization you can do in Sonar, it is SHOCKING to me that you can not do a key binding to open a VSTi interface! Okay, maybe shocking is too strong of a word. But there is definitely more work for Cakewalk to do on the MIDI and for composers in general, even with the great progress they made (thanks!) on 7.
Ok, I've just submitted them.
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/23 07:16:10
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/23 07:57:26
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Very good ideas  .
post edited by Manolo - 2007/10/23 08:08:47
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/24 06:57:16
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/26 09:48:04
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Hopefully more people follow with interest about this topic....
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/26 13:09:07
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I am certainly on board! Its another one of those little things that could dramatically impove workflow
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/26 14:57:25
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/26 16:18:52
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Man, it would be so nice to have this feature.
Surely it would be easy to add this in.
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/27 00:12:51
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I like it and it would be a nice feature request for 7.2.
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/27 02:13:28
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I completely agree about the note names. I'm allways lost in that piano roll, this would surely help me find my way about :)
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/27 04:01:50
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I agree with you in the most cases Jonathan1977.
Furthermore in Sonar 5 (and all the earlier versions) I used to select notes in the controller pan of the piano roll view depending on their velocity value by dragging a rectangle in the controller pan. In Sonar 7 there seems to be no way to do that anymore. I tried to use the prv tool configuration, but I think there is no way to define that there..
As you might guess the mentioned kind of selection is very handy for example when working with drum parts. In that way it's easy to select the notes that are accented.
Or do you know how to do that in Sonar 7.
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/10/27 05:07:56
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Looks good. What about a shortcut to turn it on or off?
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RE: Midi Improvement Request in Sonar7.2
2007/11/05 04:39:11
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That would be close to a perfect workstation in my mind....
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