Audio snap

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July 17, 08 4:12 PM (permalink)

Audio snap


Audio snap places several transient markers in many long notes while missing the actual beginning of the note.

After quantizing I hear an echo or doubling of the note that was in the original position as well as the relocated note.

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    CJaysMusic
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    RE: Audio snap July 17, 08 4:19 PM (permalink)
    It could be many things.
    <Use smaller clips
    < Your AS settings
    < trying to do too much of a change
    <wrong logorythm used
    <wrong instrument being used
    and so on. Its a powefull lil program
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    RE: Audio snap July 17, 08 4:27 PM (permalink)
    Audio snap places several transient markers in many long notes while missing the actual beginning of the note.


    AudioSnap will sometimes read amplitude modulations of a sustained note as additional transients. You just have to disable those, either manually, or by adjusting the Threshold slider. And if it fails to detect the initial transient properly, you can insert a marker there, or relocate one of the misplaced ones.

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    RE: Audio snap July 17, 08 8:54 PM (permalink)
    I seem to be getting better using AS. I tend to use the 8th note quantize setting. But only on background tracks where the inevitable glitches are not noticeable.

    I very often use manual adjustments. It's very much trial & error. You have to keep replaying to make sure you're still on the right 'track'.
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    RE: Audio snap July 17, 08 9:27 PM (permalink)
    There are many ways to use AS. I've used it quite a bit to make adjustments in phrasing and rhythm, but I've never used any of the quantize or pooling functions. It's all manual adjustments, aided by the visual, and of course the aural.

    ...inevitable glitches...


    It can depend on exactly what you're doing, and how extreme your adjustments are, but I've found that audible AS glitches will typically disappear once you bounce the clips down.

    It's best to work with short clips of a measure or two, or a phrase. There are a few benefits to this. But the biggest is that it's easier to recover should an AS clip get damaged/corrupted in some way, which happens from time to time -- they sometimes just lose track of themselves and what they should be doing. The downside of working with shorter clips is that you can end up with a lot of them which seems to increase the chances of a problem developing... though that might just be the the odds making themselves felt. Once you have a AS clip the way you want it, it's a good idea to bounce it -- Sonar has to process it in real time every time it is played, which is why they can sometimes sound glitchy. If it needs additional adjustment, then just AS the bounced clip again. AS doesn't seem to produce cumulative artifacts if a clip is processed multiple times -- though there are limits to what it can do at the musical level (I mean, you can stretch of contract a bit of audio so much that it doeesn't sound right, or good, but AS itself doesn't seem to introduce significant artifacts of its own.)
    post edited by Marah Mag - July 17, 08 11:03 PM
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    SRMS
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    RE: Audio snap August 15, 08 8:56 AM (permalink)
    Thank you!
    By using smaller clips and then bouncing the gliches have no longer been an issue for audio snap as well as V-Vocal.

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