Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues?

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2010/03/07 08:39:19 (permalink)

Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues?

Are the bass patches in Dim Pro the only ones with tuning issues (or at least not at 440 Hz)?

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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2010/03/07 10:04:08 (permalink)
    Somebody was complaining about a female vox patch recently, and others confirmed it. There might be more.
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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2010/03/07 10:11:41 (permalink)
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    Somebody was complaining about a female vox patch recently, and others confirmed it. There might be more.


    Yes one of the vox patches (dont recall which) is off almost a half step.

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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2010/03/07 11:37:25 (permalink)
    There is, and always has been, tuning issues with Dim Pro. Some of the bases are out by a mile. Something we just have to live with I think.
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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2010/03/07 11:47:04 (permalink)
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    There is, and always has been, tuning issues with Dim Pro. Some of the bases are out by a mile. Something we just have to live with I think.

    I must admit that I haven't used many of the patches in DimPro (and haven't ever used any of the bass patches because I've heard about the tuning problems for years)...90% of what I do is with a "live" bass...The other 10% is divided between synth basses for effects in a track or laying down a simple guide track with TTS1 or some other synth...
     
    However, due to the number of complaints about DimPro's intonation issues I'm surprised CW hasn't seriously addressed this issue...

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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2010/03/07 12:12:51 (permalink)
    The male choir vox is badly off and is effectively useless - I don't understand how it got in there, because every patch must go through a tuning process.  Pity there isn't a fine tuning option in DP. The female one's not so bad, but I use the free DSK Choir VST instead.  There are a lot of Bass patches and I haven't really looked into them - I hope they're not all off.

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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2010/03/07 19:30:22 (permalink)
    +1 on the basses and a bunch of the horns as well. Ya get what ya pay for!
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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2010/03/07 19:35:00 (permalink)
    tons of tuning issues with dim pro


    makes it practically useless  if you ask me


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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2010/03/07 19:44:10 (permalink)
    Yeah,  i don't think a fine tuning option would do any good  'cause the tuning issues are different from one sample to the next
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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2010/03/08 02:58:38 (permalink)
    I wouldn't really mind much for a fine tuning option if the patches were tuned correctly to start with... I think it's a pity that some off the patches are off because Dim Pro really has some great sounds but the chance of stepping on a bum one is a turn off.
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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2010/03/08 17:38:37 (permalink)
    Legion


    I wouldn't really mind much for a fine tuning option if the patches were tuned correctly to start with... I think it's a pity that some off the patches are off because Dim Pro really has some great sounds but the chance of stepping on a bum one is a turn off.

    And the main reason why I wouldn't consider the expansion pack offer...I have pretty well written off DimPro because of the tuning...and I paid full retail for it 4 years ago! 
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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2010/03/08 18:31:41 (permalink)
    I thought the people of Cakewalk were professional? What pro would play out of tune so badly? It double frustrating since I bought it before it came with Sonar. Get with it Cake!
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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2010/03/08 19:04:03 (permalink)
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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2010/03/11 19:25:13 (permalink)



    I am curious...does anyone use Dimension Pro or have you shelved it because of the tuning problems....I myself haven't used it for a very long time as I don't trust any of the samples...and did I mention I paid $300 for it!
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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2010/03/11 20:16:38 (permalink)
    I tried early on to use Dim Pro for Bass, but gave up because they were so badly out of tune - and thin sounding.  However, I still use Dim Pro for strings, saw waves, Sweep pads, bizzare pads.  Some of the organs are totally in tune.  So are the pianos.  I think a lot of the waves are great and in-tune. 

    So I have moved on to B4 for Organs, Trilogy for Bass and True Pianos for Pianos, and Z3ta for punchy synths and other sounds.  But I still use Dim Pro.  It is still useful.  Garriton pocket orchestra for Dim Pro is great.

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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2010/03/12 03:42:11 (permalink)
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    Yeah,  i don't think a fine tuning option would do any good  'cause the tuning issues are different from one sample to the next

    Do you mean that patches having multiple samples on different keys would be different tuning?
     
    That's pretty serious and something Cake should fix.
     
    I've used VSampler to import samples from different places, in this case horns stuff, and had to tune every sample just a tiny bit. But that went very well.
     
    The engine of Dimension really should be extended for free with finetuning stuff. Then you can fix the patches by yourself at least.
     
    There will always be tiny differences in clock frequencies on different soundcards and for professional use the need for such an adjustment is eminent, overall tuning, and individual as well when sources are done on so many different machines.
     
    If the fix cost a little money would be ok, I think, but it must be fixed if to be part of professional tools for studios/daws all over.
     
    Did Cake ever comment on this?
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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2010/03/12 07:26:16 (permalink)
    gwp99

    I am curious...does anyone use Dimension Pro or have you shelved it because of the tuning problems....I myself haven't used it for a very long time as I don't trust any of the samples...and did I mention I paid $300 for it!


    I used Dimension Pro lately when I wrote background music for our radio station's morning show. Needed some cheap sounding instruments quickly. :) Normally I don't touch Dim Pro, since the Native Instruments Komplete 6 (5 at work) pretty much does everything and more.
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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2010/03/12 08:38:31 (permalink)
    gwp99





    I am curious...does anyone use Dimension Pro or have you shelved it because of the tuning problems....I myself haven't used it for a very long time as I don't trust any of the samples...and did I mention I paid $300 for it!


    I still use it, but not as much. I have tried fine tuning the basses I liked. Some worked some didn't. I have been trying to decide ona replacement but cannot. Wish someone could make up my mind for me :-)

     
     
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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2010/03/12 10:57:35 (permalink)
    Dimension Pro tuning issues have been a concern for a long time.  Cakewalk says nothing about it, and does nothing about it.  A number of people on this forum have sent emails to tech support and have reported back that they received no responce.  I can't help think that they (Cakewalk) do not want to address this issue because they don't see Dimension Pro being a part of their future program developments.

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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2010/03/12 11:13:21 (permalink)
    I feel kinda sorry for anyone that has paid full price for it. Since I have it because it was bundled with 8.0 I can pretty much dismiss it, although it isn't COMPLETELY useless. When I upgrade I really don't pay much attention to the "freeby" stuff, more what the core program will give me. If we happen to get a decent plug-in then it's a cherry on the cake ... SD3 being a case in point.
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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2010/04/14 10:46:14 (permalink)
    BUMP.....

    Get your Sh**t together Cakewalk.

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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2010/04/14 10:53:57 (permalink)
    See also this (more recent) thread!

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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2010/04/14 11:19:22 (permalink)
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    BUMP.....

    Get your Sh**t together Cakewalk.


    That's sure to get a helpful response from a CW moderator! *LOL*

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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2010/04/14 12:22:19 (permalink)
    I can imagine and maybe even sympathize with the spate of excuses and justifications for most of the Sonar bugs and things not working correctly. 
    However, proper tuning in a flagship DAW is pretty much just ridiculous.
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    Re:Dimension Pro patches with tuning issues? 2011/03/06 16:49:53 (permalink)
    Yesterday I jammed with a friend. He was on the keyboard playing through the Sitar patch of Dimension Pro, and when I played back the recording it sounded all screwed up. Is this what the topic here is about? I was really confused about what happened. I tried changing the key; flattening and sharpening the whole thing, but I still couldn't get it to sound like it did while we were recording. What exactly is going on and is there a way for me to fix this?
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