Well said Sacalait, I must say that I love mine either. 

I think some workflow adjustments still need to be done, even if we can work with, X1 imposed workflow enhencement. Everything is availible in one click.

 I think some of the new approach they took with X1 could be applied to the VS system.

Anyway, as you said, every system have flaws and the vs system is very, very, VERY stable, when the computer or Windows don't get in the way....

Anyway, I keep hope for other great implementations from Cake.

ps: new lables for new functions would be nice...

A list would be a good idea I think.

Once consolidated, we could send all our ideas directly to Cakewalk

I post here once in a while, but the V-Studio is much less complex than Sonar and most of its functions are pretty similar to other consoles, so it is not surprising that this forum has less activity than the other Cakewalk forums. I used to use a VS-1680 and had trouble finding info online sometimes, but Roland sold a ton of 880s, 1680s, and 2480s and continued support and development for a long time. If Cakewalk is not selling more V-Studios, it is only because people buying Sonar either don't know about it or are opting for cheaper and less functional control surfaces. The V-Studios are excellent values. I do think the Fantom implementation is a little goofy and it took me a while to get it running, but no problem with it now except for one thing: by making a hardware unit that is inserted as a soft synth, Cakewalk created a weird situation that prevents two projects that use Fantom from being opened at once. Trying to do so (even inadvertently) can crash Sonar. This is inconvenient when trying to copy data among projects.

I love mine and it was well worth the $2000!! The Fantom is a great synth.  The controls speed up my work to where I have taken on Many more clients.  I am happy with mine.   They have replaced my Maudio interfaces and are working much better than those ever did.

No I don't think the development of this thing is done. I think the first generation V Studio 700 concept was great but maybe the next generation V studio concept might be in the making.

Presonus are integrating the digital mixer concept with their Studio One software. What would be great now from Roland would be a great digital mixer concept linked to X1 Expanded on a powerful computer. A whole new piece of hardware.

The digital mixer would have lots of analog and digital inputs and 32 digital channels each way between computer and mixer. Effects on every input and output of course. EQ, dynamics and time based. From the software you should be able to edit the mixer and all its processors visually. All hardware processing inside the digital mixer should appear as plugins inside the software.

Control surface should be advanced, motorised of course and have faders and rotary encoders that are set out and lebeled in such a way they can be used for many future generations of software. All of the text above and below buttons, faders, knobs etc would have displays that could show anything. Transport and Jog/Shuttle controllers would be a good addition.

The control surface of the digital mixer should be able to disengage from the mixer itself and just control the software like the V700C does. And the computer should still talk to the digital mixer part that is disengaged.

All A to D and D to A inside the mixer. They have got the VS700R technology to handle all that. Lots of connectivity that Roland are so good at to handle many inputs and talkback and headphones mixes, monitoring. It would be good to be able to easily connect say a 16 channel line mixer for a bunch of external synth hardware as an add on, if you wanted to keep the main input channels free.

I have thought about the Fantom synth concept and it is nice to have it in there and you could still build maybe a synth engine inside the mixer but there are so many virtual synths that are so good it is possibly the best place for them. But how about you connect up a great Roland hardware type instrument that is very powerful and that could take care of a lot of sound engine duties as well as be a great keyboard to play. Monster Fantom, Jupiter 80 etc..or a Kronos style of instrument. Something that has the equivalent of 9 or 10 synth engines on board. Combine that with a decent set of virtual VST's in the main host software.

Is this where things are heading? Is this the ultimate system? I work with the digital mixer concept combined with software and it is great and powerful and fast. Not as integrated as it could be but great none the less. I can still record all the mixer moves in the DAW and play them back. Also the faders can control tracks and busses inside the DAW as well.

I have a few extra ideas as you do. Maybe a centre channel high end analog device like a serious compressor or something with its own converters before and after and can be accessed of course from anywhere.

A few things I would like to see from the V700C. A connector for the existing VS700C console so it can be used in conjunction with the digital mixer. The T Bar is great for the transperancy control and other real time activities.

The VG99 idea is amazing. Putting that inside would be something else. And while you are it, have the direct connector for the guitar Hex pickup on the front panel somwhere. The D Beam would also be cool.

I imagine the entire top surface being something like a large LCD or LED screen with the faders and rotary encoders and switches etc all being installed on it. And large areas where touch screen would operate. Instead of having a touch screen in one area make the whole thing a super high res touch screen. With the controls embedded in etc.

All the information around the controls would have the ability to change into anything. Labeling one minute for the controls, visual readouts for plugins etc. Routing could be displayed on the screen surface showing signal flow for various scenes. Parts of the surface could show what the software is doing etc..

Now it is starting to shape up.

All of that would be awesome. A control surface than can be the be all.
Too much touch screen though would drive up the price like crazy. Maybe supm more on the line of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgAZGyKCgmQ&feature=related go to :54 ...but made to work all areas of X1.
Since we already have the V700R it may make more sense to have the I/O separate.


That's my tree cents 

Honestly, I wouldn't be too surprised if they re-release the V-studio 700 C/ I/O/ unit with USB 3.0, or the new Thunderbolt.  It would drastically increase the amount of data that could be transferred at a single time, which would be great.  But as for development on the thing... I honestly am pleased with what they have.  It is a great unit, and really doesn't need much more dev.  Don't try to fix what's not broken is my modow.

I know for sure I don't want to see another "better" product come out. I'd much rather see the 700 in a state of continual software update. I've still not been able to get my Fantom working properly and that alone has really made me mad. Unfortunately, my studio is packed up right now as we are getting ready to move it, so nothing I can do at the moment to fix it... not that anything I tried worked in the past anyway.

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I know for sure I don't want to see another "better" product come out. I'd much rather see the 700 in a state of continual software update. I've still not been able to get my Fantom working properly and that alone has really made me mad. Unfortunately, my studio is packed up right now as we are getting ready to move it, so nothing I can do at the moment to fix it... not that anything I tried worked in the past anyway.

What's wrong with your Fantom? Mine works fine. 64bit problems?

You are right there. I just wish they would polish our beloved V700 for a last time to shine.