change samples path for new Dim Pro 1.5

Hi John,

To clarify, Dimension 1.5 puts all of the programs in the all users application data directory (C:\ProgramData on Vista/Win7).  This step is required for UAC compliance and is the same behavior we've been using for Rapture for awhile now.  These are relatively small, mine are all of 120mb or so

As you pointed out the multisamples are pretty big, the factory content alone is about 8GB.  You can place these wherever you would like by either specifying at time of install or manually moving and changing the registry key you pointed out above

Sorry for any confusion.

Best Regards,

Correct - you can't change the path for Programs, MIDI, and Sample Pool folders (sorry) but its necessary for UAC compliance. 

The old folders stay in place for folks that might still be using the DXi version for compatibility in existing projects, if you're only using the VSTi you can safely delete the old folders (I'm using Win7 x64 and I did the same).  Additionally there is another potential issue with some of the expansion packs that are in the field today, see kb2007013168 for more info

What is "UAC compliance?"

Who "requires" UAC compliance?

Who does "UAC compliance" benefit?

Is this (UAC compliance) the reason why most (if not all) SW synthesizers have hard-coded paths in them, making them burdensome to install and not as streamlined to use as they could be, and why I can never use my preferred paths as defaults?

Keith

That can lead to real confusion! It would be better to be flexible. UAC doesn't matter when you get off the C: drive.

I thought that too and I did a piece on getting the setup back to the new VSTi version only, here;

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2055823

Rene

Are there expansions that look for the old Dimension Pro key to install correctly?

Or is the new /dp key sufficient, i.e does the old key need to remain if the DXi  is no longer installed.?

jbraner

René


Registry main key in DP 1.5 has been changed to:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Cakewalk Music Software\dp

The "Multisamples Folder" string is still used if it exists on the new key. Hope this helps.

-rgc

I'm pretty sure I tried this - I'll try again though.

This definitely does not work. I *had* tried it before - as a matter of fact the setting is still there in my registry, bu tit does not see any programs unless they're in the C: drive location.

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
 
 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cakewalk Music Software\dp]
 "Contents Folder"="YOUR INSTALL DISK:\\Program Files\\Cakewalk\\Dimension Pro"
 "Multisamples Folder"="H:\\Program Files\\Cakewalk\\Dimension Pro"

This is how it looks in a registry export.

In fact the code above can be copied into a text file with a reg extension after making the locations pertinent to your system and double clicked to enter into the registry.

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
 
 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cakewalk Music Software\rp]
 "Contents Folder"="YOUR INSTALL DISK:\\Program Files\\Cakewalk\\Rapture"
 "Multisamples Folder"="H:\\Program Files\\Cakewalk\\Rapture"

This one will work for Rapture.

The vital thing is that the install locations for the main Synth installs cannot vary from those in my previous post.

Hi Jonbouy,

My multisamples are on a different drive too, and that is fine. I made a mistake then - because the "multisamples folder" setting actually does work.

What *doesn't* work is the contents folder. It only works if you have your programs in the default location - so basically your registry setting is meaningless. If you try to set your contents (ie programs) somewhere else - then it doesn't work - even with a "contents folder" setting in the registry. Take out your "contents folder" setting, and it will still work fine ;-)

So:
- the plugin can be installed anywhere you want it (SONAR will pick it up)
- the multisamples can be installed anywhere (if you set the registry setting)
- the programs have to be in the default location.

This is stupid, and should have nothing to do with UAC if you want to run from say F:\Dimension Pro.


PS - the forum is sooper slooooooooooooooooooooooooooow today.

 

Just bought and installed Sonar 8.5 Pro package.

Had same problems with paths in Dim Pro right out of the box, even after 1.5 upgrade (was hoping the update would address previous issues). None of the suggestions I've read up to now, in these forums (hacked reg.. etc..) worked for me.

Decided to un-install 1.5, to try to re-install 1.2.. with the suggestions in this thread (then re-apply the 1.5 update), but.. Win 7 un-installer only gave me the option to un-install 1.2. Did not have an option to un-install 1.5. Tried to un-install 1.2 anyway.. was given an error that it could not find the installation, to un-install.

Looked for alternate 1.5 un-installer, but 1.5 did not provide it's own, that I could find. So I reverted my computer back, before the 1.5 installation, which included the 1.2 re-installion as well. 

Was left with bits and pieces of 1.2 everywhere.. could probably re-install 1.2/1.5 patch, but really not interested at this point.. knowing that 1.5 will leave me stuck with no way to un-install Dim Pro at all.

You folks might want to check if you have an un-installation option for 1.5, or if it still shows 1.2 as your only option.

info:

ASUS P6X58D Premium, Intel Core i7-960, Crucial 12GB SDRAM DDR3 1333, 2 x Crucial 64GB RealSSD C300, 2 x WD Caviar Black 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB, Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit, Cakewalk SONAR Producer (8.5.3.282 - 64-bit install), Cakewalk A-500S, Cakewalk UA-25EX

Everything in the Sonar 8.5 package seemed to work ok initially, except for Dimension Pro. And now 'Pentagon I', seems to have stopped working. Gives an error when I try to insert it (Failed to insert soft synth. The synth may not be properly installed.).

All the previous installations and un-installations, and subsequent deletion of various Dim Pro folders, that were not caught by the un-installations.. may have nuked 'Pentagon I' along the way, somehow. Would probably have to completely re-install Sonar 8.5 Pro package to get that back.

I suggest that if Dim Pro requires certain aspects of it, to be installed into definite areas on your drives, to work properly.. that the option to install into custom paths be removed from the installer.. except, of course.. for the multi-samples.

Also.. the ability to point to the location of the multi-samples folder, from the popup error box that appears.. when Dim Pro cannot find them.

Suggesting that people hack their registry to fix this, is a bit scary.

Sorry my first post on these boards had to be this sort of negative wall of text.. trying to provide as much info as I can, and present my issues and suggestions in a clear, constructive manner.