Memory overload

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September 10, 10 4:02 PM (permalink)

Memory overload

  When I do a lot of editing, mostly cut and paste, in the prv window, it bogs down my system, sometimes to the point of causing engine stoppage.  I usually have to close the song and reopen it, or close down Sonar and restart it, and at the worst I have to reboot my computer !   Does anyone know of a memory program that "clears" the ram with out all the shut down issues.  Or is there a setting in Sonar to fix this.  I don't want to use read or write caching because in Florida we have a lot of lightning and power outages hence I've had to reinstall windows (AAARRRGGGHHH) several times until I turned off the caching.  Can someone help me :)  Thank you.
 
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    brundlefly
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    Re:Memory overload September 10, 10 5:14 PM (permalink)
    I haven't run into that, but maybe you should try reducing the Max Undo Levels in the History dialog.
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    Re:Memory overload September 10, 10 5:52 PM (permalink)
    Or get a modren OS.

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    Re:Memory overload September 10, 10 8:21 PM (permalink)
    On the face of it editing in the piano roll view should not be a big user of RAM--midi data is pretty small potatoes compared to audio. How do you know this is a RAM issue?
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    Re:Memory overload September 10, 10 9:12 PM (permalink)
    Yea a new operating system might help and new audio cards too, those delta cards have been around for at least 10 years, you don't tell us which version of Sonar your using as each version supersedes the next so does your audio interfaces.  Meaning what do you expect if you are using 10 year old cards and a brand new DAW it's like putting a kid into a racing car and expecting it to drive the car like the Stig. 

    It wont happen, they are not compatible because they have been optimized differently.  Also if I remember correctly, those Delta cards and don't get me wrong they were good in their day are PCI cards and not PCI express.  That is your problem.  The throughput of your motherboard and the way the audio is transferred is bottle necking this is why today there are no PCI audio interfaces unless M-Audio still make those cards and this includes the 1010. I haven't checked. 

    Finally whilst in their day M-Audio were a top notch audio interface manufacture, I wouldn't touch their new stuff with a barge pole.  Their new interfaces  have horrible sounding preamps all mids.  Just my two cents.

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    Re:Memory overload September 11, 10 9:33 AM (permalink)
    I ran into this as well a couple of years ago.... the secret work around that I stumbled upon is to do SAVES while in the PRV edit mode.... CNTL S has become part of my routine... edit a few notes, hit CNTL S....

    Try it!

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    Re:Memory overload September 11, 10 11:34 AM (permalink)
    Whooh nelly-- saves gives you no way to return if you screw up!

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    Re:Memory overload September 11, 10 4:55 PM (permalink)
    But it stops the MEM CRASH... I hope that the bakers fix this issue.... and how much damage can you do in PRV edit anyway. :-)

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    Re:Memory overload September 11, 10 7:05 PM (permalink)
    So, if saving fixes the issue, then I guess the memory needed for the undos is the culprit. Have you looked at the memory usage?
    And, Windows 7 64 bit is quite good.

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    Re:Memory overload September 11, 10 8:00 PM (permalink)
    It's probably not the software fault. Things like this can be solved by configuring things properly.
    There are many things to consider.
    Your memory can be faulty. There is software to check this.

    Like mentioned above change the setting for " Max Undo Levels in the History dialog. "
    But You have a better computer than me and I've never had this issue so something needs fixin'



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    Re:Memory overload September 11, 10 8:44 PM (permalink)
    John


    Or get a modren OS.

    NOw now -- I'm on XP Pro sp3, 32bit and doing just fine, thank you :)   It's not the OS (usually).
     
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    Re:Memory overload September 11, 10 8:48 PM (permalink)
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    It's probably not the software fault. Things like this can be solved by configuring things properly.
    There are many things to consider.
    Your memory can be faulty. There is software to check this.

    Like mentioned above change the setting for " Max Undo Levels in the History dialog. "
    But You have a better computer than me and I've never had this issue so something needs fixin'

    Agreed.  Someone discovered awhile back that reducing the "Undo History" to something like 64 or 128 I think - made a big difference and avoided crashes just like the one the OP mentions.
     
    But, it could be memory as well - or the OP needs some Windows Updates perhaps.
     

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