Copyright infringement????

Page: < 12 Showing page 2 of 2
Author
SeveredVesper
Max Output Level: -68 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 1120
  • Joined: 2009/06/28 23:53:38
  • Location: Philippines
  • Status: offline
Re:Copyright infringement???? 2010/11/21 08:39:37 (permalink)
Crg


It's a big problem for every songwriter. To think that there are people analysing every song that comes out and makes some money to see if they can build an infringement suit and cash a check is not really too paranoid. There are people doing just that in the music industry.
With so many sharks in the water it becomes hard to create in the popular styles that people are familiar with. How many dance beats have you heard that sound like clones of a another? How long till someone claims ownership to a 4/4 drum beat?


+1 to that!

Check out my band's song on YouTube!

#31
SongCraft
Max Output Level: -36 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 3902
  • Joined: 2007/09/19 17:54:46
  • Status: offline
Re:Copyright infringement???? 2010/11/21 08:41:01 (permalink)

There is NO copyright on chords progression and song titles.  Otherwise it would basically been the end of the road for composers a long, long, time ago.

IMO, due to the concern that almost all that's been written will soon leave no scope for entirely 'original' compositions and could lead to the end of the road for composers if not then eventually sometime in the future, and I suspect claimants are being greedy with  'deliberate intention' to gain more than what is fair share without considering the fact that most cases are 'unintentional infringement'. That said; I believe the laws need to be changed; process 'simplified', to reduce time and costs...

. All claims in regards to violation of copyright must be made within 6 months of the song (in question) release date, and if claims are submitted after 6 months? all successful claims be reduced to 10%.

. Claims Form signed by the claimant(s) and JP (notarized), copy of 'notation' and 'audio' file included.

. if 4 bars or more of the main melody

. and main melody examined by 'notation' are exactly the same.

. and if decided by the court beyond any doubt to be 'unintentional infringement'

. 50/50% each from the date claim was submitted.

. but if decided by the court beyond any doubt to be 'deliberate, intentional infringement' then the income be paid at 100% to the original author (composer) from the date the 'copied' song was released.

-

post edited by SongCraft - 2010/11/21 08:43:25

 
 
#32
Guitarhacker
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 24398
  • Joined: 2007/12/07 12:51:18
  • Location: NC
  • Status: offline
Re:Copyright infringement???? 2010/11/21 14:48:21 (permalink)
As songcraft said int eh first line... no copyright is permitted on chord progressions and song titles....I'll also add you can not copyright the groove of the song either.

All the blues songs and rock songs that use the 1-4-5 traditional progression are all different. The melody is different, the groove or feel is different, and the words are different to each of them.

If we had a song writing "contest: here, and 100 people joined the festivities, and the only rules were  you had to write a song using C-F-and G only..... I can guarantee the 100 songs would all be different. In one way or another. 

My website & music: www.herbhartley.com

MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW   
Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface


BMI/NSAI

"Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer 
#33
bapu
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 86000
  • Joined: 2006/11/25 21:23:28
  • Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
  • Status: offline
Re:Copyright infringement???? 2010/11/21 15:53:11 (permalink)
Guitarhacker


If we had a song writing "contest: here, and 100 people joined the festivities, and the only rules were  you had to write a song using C-F-and G only..... I can guarantee the 100 songs would all be different. In one way or another. 

+1.


No really!  We would have 101.
#34
Rbh
Max Output Level: -52 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 2349
  • Joined: 2007/09/05 22:33:44
  • Location: Indiana
  • Status: offline
Re:Copyright infringement???? 2010/11/21 16:17:04 (permalink)
After all  _ It's only 12 tones

I7 930 2.8 Asus PDX58D
12 Gig
Appollo
CbB, Sonar Pro, Reaper, Samplitude, MixBuss
 Win7 Pro

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=902832
#35
jhughs
Max Output Level: -67 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 1179
  • Joined: 2007/11/23 13:58:23
  • Location: Naperville, IL
  • Status: offline
Re:Copyright infringement???? 2010/11/21 16:19:03 (permalink)
bapu


Guitarhacker


If we had a song writing "contest: here, and 100 people joined the festivities, and the only rules were  you had to write a song using C-F-and G only..... I can guarantee the 100 songs would all be different. In one way or another. 

+1.


No really!  We would have 101.


And then one of us gets to sue the 102nd entrant.

ASUS P5ND/Intel E8500, Line6 Toneport UX2/PODFarm, Sonar, Axiom 25, Blue Bluebird, Audio-Technica AT3035s, Blue Snowflake, Line6 Spider IV 150 & AMPLIFI, Crate 1

J Hughs Soundclick
#36
Crg
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 7719
  • Joined: 2007/11/15 07:59:17
  • Status: offline
Re:Copyright infringement???? 2010/11/21 19:40:38 (permalink)
Guitarhacker


As songcraft said int eh first line... no copyright is permitted on chord progressions and song titles....I'll also add you can not copyright the groove of the song either.

All the blues songs and rock songs that use the 1-4-5 traditional progression are all different. The melody is different, the groove or feel is different, and the words are different to each of them.

If we had a song writing "contest: here, and 100 people joined the festivities, and the only rules were  you had to write a song using C-F-and G only..... I can guarantee the 100 songs would all be different. In one way or another. 


Your statement says it all and is an example of why the lawsuit and judgement against My Sweet Lord was unjust. I'll say it again, different words-different melody. The continued addressing of grand topics by different artists is bound to overlap. If I expose you to my work and it inspires you to create, should I then sue you for continuing the concept with an answer. There are some songs that have been rammed across the radio ad-nausiem, eventually you must respond. But that's all theoretical and versed in the freedom of art and the limitations of what's been created before verses what the general listeners will be able to grasp after being bombarded for years with sonic examples.

Craig DuBuc
#37
Page: < 12 Showing page 2 of 2
Jump to:
© 2024 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1