Keni
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Re:New SONAR Plus Skin Editor Coming in March
2011/02/24 04:32:08
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benstat Hi all, If anyone is interested in skinning X1 (and judging by Panu's recent thread, there are quite a few of you), you might want to have a look at the link below. To cut a long story short, I'm working on a new X1 skin editor program called SONAR Plus Skin Editor. Panup has been kind enough to agree to share his X1 skinning knowledge with me to speed things up (so I don't have to waste time figuring out all the stuff he already knows). I'll also be bundling his skins with it, so you have some ready made skins to use and tweak if you want. I'm hoping it will bring X1 skinning to the masses! Anyway, here is the link: http://www.sonarplus.co.uk/Pages/SkinEditor/SkinEditorAnnouncement.aspx Thanks, Ben Hi benstat... That's GREAT news!... and I'm really pleased to see the two of you working together... A real sign of what this forum is (should be) about! Users helping users.... I've played with panups skins and found them very interesting... I didn't continue to use them as certain things were not quite to my liking... so being able to start with one of his and modify those elements would be fabulous! Of course, if you need/want any beta testers, I'm available for the job... Keni
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benstat
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Re:New SONAR Plus Skin Editor Coming in March
2011/02/24 05:37:38
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Thanks everyone. I'd better get programming!
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Somerset
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Re:New SONAR Plus Skin Editor Coming in March
2011/02/24 06:33:10
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Zonno jm24 Beware: The CW managers have thwarted at least 3 attempts at significant expansion of Sonar. They should't. Allready posted this in Panup's thread, but I will post it once again, hoping Cakewalk will read this: Modding can contribute to the succes of SONAR. This happened with Rebirth, more than 10 years ago. Back in the days of Rebirth hackers made modded versions of Rebirth. The possibility of making mods was soon adopted by Propellerheads and contributed to the succes of Rebirth. The possibility of modding became a feature. Read more on this: http://www.rebirthmuseum.com/community/part4.htm I hope that Cake learnes from music history. That's really interesting. I didn't know that . Unfortunately the link doesn't seem to work and I get a 404 error. Is this an error in the link, or a problem with Google chrome (or something else)?
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Re:New SONAR Plus Skin Editor Coming in March
2011/02/24 07:57:09
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I stopped modding th gfx and GUIs on a few computer games a while back... but this really is tempting........ Brilliant work btw!
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panup
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Re:New SONAR Plus Skin Editor Coming in March
2011/02/24 07:58:06
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ronkenobi cool thx and dont forget the german users to use the skin editor :) Skin Editor is compatible with all languages! -Panu
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Zonno
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Re:New SONAR Plus Skin Editor Coming in March
2011/02/24 08:59:05
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Somerset Zonno jm24 Beware: The CW managers have thwarted at least 3 attempts at significant expansion of Sonar. They should't. Allready posted this in Panup's thread, but I will post it once again, hoping Cakewalk will read this: Modding can contribute to the succes of SONAR. This happened with Rebirth, more than 10 years ago. Back in the days of Rebirth hackers made modded versions of Rebirth. The possibility of making mods was soon adopted by Propellerheads and contributed to the succes of Rebirth. The possibility of modding became a feature. Read more on this: http://www.rebirthmuseum.com/community/part4.htm%3C/a%3E%3C/font%3E I hope that Cake learnes from music history. That's really interesting. I didn't know that . Unfortunately the link doesn't seem to work and I get a 404 error. Is this an error in the link, or a problem with Google chrome (or something else)? This is the text The idea of altering ReBirth originated outside the "official" community and in the realm of code hackers. Originally, the modification involved hacking the application code using development software available through Apple Computer to replace audio and graphics data. The result was a new version of the software with a different user interface and drum sounds than the original 808 sample set. The first Mod appeared only weeks after the initial ReBirth release, credited to someone who dubbed himself, 'Ma Baker.' Having discovered how to manipulate the ReBirth 808 drum samples, Ma Baker created a "RB-339" using Roland TR-909 samples. This led another modification, "ReBirth po[arized," which featured loops and samples aimed toward hip-hop production. The RB-339 hack inspired an aesthetic modification by Kurt Kurasaki ('Peff'), who replaced the TR-808 graphics with 909-inspired images and knob animations. The first complete graphics modification was by a Spanish designer named 'Breaker.' With a background in computer graphics and 3-D modeling, Breaker's interface modification set a precedent of changing the entire ReBirth interface, not simply the smaller panels of the 303 and 808. In the fall of 1997, the first Mods for the Windows operating system appeared. Michael 'lunarguy' Price's "RB-33L" featured a partial interface redesign and LinnDrum sound samples. Allowing Mods to operate on both Macintosh and Windows platforms was one of the first programming challenges and Price's experience with the latter facilitated his conversion to dual-platform compatibility. Due to copyright concerns in using the LinnDrum logo, name, and samples, Price was urged to cease his efforts. By early 1998, ReBirth Mods were officially adopted by Propellerhead Software, a move initiated by Price. They were an instant hit within the community, and the appeal of ReBirth additions contributed to the company's marketing efforts. Fredrik Solenberg recalled, "At the Frankfurt Musikmesse in 1998, we were showing mods and the reaction among less-initiated visitors was that if you bought that first rather dull looking piece of software, you got six other colorful, and glitzy programs for free." By '98, ReBirth Mods had become an important facet of the application in the sense users eagerly awaited new Mods as much as releases by talented ReBirth musicians. To deter the possibility of reckless distribution, ReBirth 2.0 included a file format technology unique to ReBirth Mods called "RBM." Released in combination with the ReBirth Modpacker Utility in 1998, ReBirth furthered its purpose as a vehicle of visual and aural expression. The Mods themselves became electronic works of art as skilled graphics designers revamped ReBirth's user interface. Propellerhead's own Fredrik Hägglund designed the stunning "Pitch Black Edition", Thomas Holmström consistently produced stylized interfaces for his "MSM2," "Millenium," and "Sidstation 2 Mods," and, considered to be the most beautiful of all is the "Infernalizer Mod" by Thomas and Wolfgang Merkle. The most elaborate modification was the "Regulator Mod" by Ritchie 'Cipher' Argue and Jordan Benwick, in which Argue reconstructed the code to accommodate radically different bitmaps for knob and meter positions.
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jm24
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Re:New SONAR Plus Skin Editor Coming in March
2011/02/24 11:35:18
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Yo benstat A warning and an opportunity. If the CW managers do not thwart your adventure, you should contact this guy. Prolly some collaboration. http://www.jsonar.org/drupal/content/why-you-dont-see-much-sonar-x1-blog Why you don't see much of Sonar X1 on this blog? The new version of Cakewalk Sonar, called Sonar X1, has been out for a couple of weeks now. However, you have not seen anything about this release or not even a mention of the latter on this blog. Wonder why? The answer is fairly simple: lack of the accessibility features in the new version of the software to call it a usable product for those who rely on screen readers to operate the computer and, subsequently, compose and record music. While there exist several work-around ways to get access to some of the features, we have lost a lot more as far as the general accessibility of the product is concerned. Here are some of the highlights: - It is very difficult to reliably retrieve the “from” and “thru” selection points in the project.
- All of the accessible toolbars have now been replaced with completely inaccessible “Control Bar”, thus shutting off the screen reader users from being able to operate the view-specific features.
- There is no longer an easy way to open the synthrack view without clicking with a mouse.
- The new plugins such as “Cakewalk Sound Center”, “SI-Bass Guitar”, “SI-Electric Piano”, “SI-Drum Kit” and others cannot be operated via keyboard or a screen reader.
In all fairness, the “Loop Browser” has been slightly improved although, again, it is not reachable via keyboard. It is unclear what, if any, plans Cakewalk has regarding the accessibility of Sonar X1, but right now we are asking screen reader users to stick with one of the earlier versions of Sonar or look for other alternatives.
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Jim Roseberry
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Re:New SONAR Plus Skin Editor Coming in March
2011/02/24 11:57:47
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Keep on Rockin me Baby!!!! I have to sing that at some gigs... (sic) I've managed to avoid it the past several months...
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SONARtist
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Re:New SONAR Plus Skin Editor Coming in March
2011/02/24 12:09:46
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@ benstat and panup : Not only do you set high expectations, you DELIVER to them !! No matter which way you look at it ... Thank you ! uoy knahT ! Thank you ! uoy knahT ! Thank you ! uoy knahT ! Thank you !
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syntheticpop
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Re:New SONAR Plus Skin Editor Coming in March
2011/03/11 16:49:37
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benstat, will SONAR Plus Skin Editor be integrated into SONAR Plus or will it be a separate program? If it's planned as being separate, perhaps you can have an installation option when installing SONAR Plus.
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benstat
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Re:New SONAR Plus Skin Editor Coming in March
2011/03/11 17:40:04
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It will be a separate program, and yes, it probably will have a single setup program, but with options to install either or both as you wish. I recognize that a lot of people won't want/need both, and I'm certainly not going to force them both on you!
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rainmaker1011
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Re:New SONAR Plus Skin Editor Coming in March
2011/03/11 17:44:29
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Great news! If able, please, please, make the FX bin larger so more FXs can fit in it! :)
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