Mike and Undertow...

Yeah for my needs that would be a little overkill, no a LOT of overkill.....

Im wondering how many pro studios actually use all those inputs anyway? I saw a vid of some of the Nashville engineers poking fun about a session where at guy had, 25 or 30 mics on the drum set alone !
I guess if one were recording the Phil Harmonic it would come in handy.

Oh well....to each his own.
Jeff

I guess if one were recording the Phil Harmonic

Is that Phil Harmonic and his Orchestra of Renown?

I'll add on to Razor.
I don't think a summing mixer is an end to itself. It's just another way of doing things. Properly done, mixing "outside the box" is a very nice way of acheiving a high quality stereo mix.
I have an Allen and Heath R16, 16 channel recording mixer that I use for both the front end going into the DAW and playing the DAW back through it by channel, mixing each channel on the mixer and sending it back to track a stereo 2 track in the DAW---all simultaneously.
For me I can get a decent mix either "in the box" or "out of the box"
I guess it all depends on the final sound I'm looking for, and what "color" I want/need to add to the final mix.

As Razorwit, hornplyr and AT mentioned, it makes sense to do analogue summing if you also have some nice analogue gear to process the sound with but there was a time when some companies marketed analogue summing as being better than digital summing. Not even so much as a way to give some nice analogue colouring but actually being more precise than digital. So you would get these rack mounted summing mixers a bit like the Neve I linked. The idea was to go out of your DAW through a multi-out card and sum the signals in this analogue summing mixer. (Which does just that, sums the signals. Nothing more nothing less).

In reality digital summing is much more accurate than analogue summing and if you add the extra step of going through digital to analogue converters to do analogue summing and then back into digital, you loose even more.

As for my own little fantasies, I'd just like the Neve as an expensive patch bay so I can route a few more signals to my converters. I don't even want it to colour the sound! Needless to say I'm not quite running to the shops to buy one. ;-)

UnderTow

tarsier

I guess if one were recording the Phil Harmonic

Is that Phil Harmonic and his Orchestra of Renown?

Yes ! Do you know Phil personally?
He's started a new business....... http://www.ikmultimedia.com/philharmonik/features/ 

downsouthstudio


haha...Yes, you guys will get a full review, including wave files of my beautiful voice, plus the wife, grandkids, and our parakeet. That should cover 20hz-20khz

Very curious about your new Mojave MA-200 microphone - anything to share?

HumbleNoise

downsouthstudio


haha...Yes, you guys will get a full review, including wave files of my beautiful voice, plus the wife, grandkids, and our parakeet. That should cover 20hz-20khz

Very curious about your new Mojave MA-200 microphone - anything to share?

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Im sorry, but I havent had time to post any tests on the MA-200. Tied up with other stuff.

I have tried it with my voice and a couple of my students. I tried it with both the UA preamp, and the FF800 preamp. On my vocals the FF800 combo sounds best due to the "warmth" generated initially by the Mojave tube. On female the I think using the LA610mkII was the best combo.
I think the Mojave will prove to be a perfect mic for those of us that dont want to spend 3 or 4 grand on a Neumann or other tube mics. Every source I checked had only good things to say about the MA-200 and I check a lot of forums and vendors before ordering the unit.

You should check YouTube and the Mojave site for audio samples....this is what I used to make my decision. I will try and get some samples up...soon. I do a lot of business with SweetWater. My sales guy told me he has "never" had anyone return the MA-200 for any reason.


Jeff

Wow.  Sitting back on a Friday night, watching the ball game and reading one of the best threads I've come across in a while--- front to back.  Some times this forum gets a little messy, but when it's good, it's really, really good. 

UPDATE on the Mojave MA-200

Ive used the Mojave on both female and male cuts.
I like the sound, warm, and clear and I would recommend it for a medium priced tube mic.

It is "that" much better than my trusty AT4033 ? No, just a different sound and one more mic for my arsenel which now includes 3 ha. Spending a $1000 for a tube mic, was better than spending $3000 for one, and its convinced me no mic will improve a bad vocalist. I satisfied my "gear lust" for mics with this purchase, at least for the next few years.

Ive decided I already have everything I need to make good music...I just need to learn how to use the tools better. MORE equipment is not the answer. Ive thrown away the PRO EQUIPMENT catalogs, and replaced them with users manuals, and how-to videos.

On with the show,
Jeff