Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR?

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Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/16 20:24:39 (permalink)
I am demoing the UAD 224, and I have the Lexicon PCM Native bundle, as well as all the UAD EMT140 and 250.   The 224 is a very specific vintage color which can be terrific for some applications and not so hot with others.  With some sources the 224 doesn't blend in with the original too well, and sometimes it really enhances the source in a really nice way.  I feel the same way with the Lex Native reverb.      

Even with that embarrassment of riches, I vote for ValhallaRoom.  It's not just a "room" reverb, in spite of the title.  It  has four different algorithms and it does all the traditional reverb chores exceptionally well and it always seems to blend in with the source material no matter how it's set.  For $50 it's one of the greatest steals out there.  I could live very happily with just that one reverb for just about everything. 



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Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/16 23:21:50 (permalink)
If you can be patient, UA will start including the Lexicon in their monthly specials, but that usually takes at least 6 months after its release before that happens.  Hold out for 20% off and the price is a lot more attractive.  I the mean time, the Lexicon IR's are a great idea.  Do you have Sonar 7 (?) PE or earlier and have the Lexicon Pantheon?  Nice sounding reverb.
I'll be checking out that Waves deal myself!

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Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/17 03:16:06 (permalink)
The UAD Lexicon plug slays the Sonar one IMO.  Glad I got the UAD-2 Quad card.  These new plugs suck processing power. No wonder they sound so good.

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Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/17 03:47:36 (permalink)
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The UAD Lexicon plug slays the Sonar one IMO.  Glad I got the UAD-2 Quad card.  These new plugs suck processing power. No wonder they sound so good.


Haven't demo'd  the UAD Lexicon yet, but I'd be surprised if I didn't end up agreeing with you .

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Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/17 07:57:09 (permalink)
Yeah, it definitely seems like UAD has stepped up its game recently with the plug emulations they've modeled.  Probably because the UAD-2 cards allow them to be a bit more detailed now.  I'd expect (haven't demo'd it yet) the Lexicon emulation to be top-notch.  Since purchasing the Massive Passive and the Studer, they are on all mixes I've done since.

I use the EMT140 for most of my reverb needs at this point.  I'll check out the Lexicon at some point just don't want to "need" it sooner.

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Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/18 01:51:40 (permalink)
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I have just about every hardware algorithmic reverb created. As others have said you can download the IR's I've posted to get you 90% there.
http://rhythminmind.net/1313/?cat=182
These are really good. I will be making a donation, as the quality is really nice, and this must have taken a lot of work.

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Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/18 10:23:33 (permalink)
For those of you using PerfectSpace for convolution reverb, keep in mind that it isn't a true stereo reverb.  It's not a big issue if you are just sending mono sources to the reverb (just a vocal?). 

If you are sending the reverb a signal that has stereo content/panning, the signal is summed to mono and centered at the front end of the reverb.

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Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/18 20:38:25 (permalink)
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For those of you using PerfectSpace for convolution reverb, keep in mind that it isn't a true stereo reverb.  It's not a big issue if you are just sending mono sources to the reverb (just a vocal?). 

If you are sending the reverb a signal that has stereo content/panning, the signal is summed to mono and centered at the front end of the reverb.
Yes I've mainly used PerfectSpace for vocals, and other mono sources. Is there a convolution reverb that is true stereo that you would recommend? 

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Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/18 21:12:09 (permalink)
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For those of you using PerfectSpace for convolution reverb, keep in mind that it isn't a true stereo reverb.  It's not a big issue if you are just sending mono sources to the reverb (just a vocal?). 

If you are sending the reverb a signal that has stereo content/panning, the signal is summed to mono and centered at the front end of the reverb.
Yes I've mainly used PerfectSpace for vocals, and other mono sources. Is there a convolution reverb that is true stereo that you would recommend? 


I use SIR2:

http://www.knufinke.de/sir/sir2.html



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Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/18 23:34:03 (permalink)
Thanks - SIR2 looks interesting, but at $300 (with all the impulses) it's a little bit pricey for me. Still, I might try the demo.
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Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/18 23:38:07 (permalink)
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Thanks - SIR2 looks interesting, but at $300 (with all the impulses) it's a little bit pricey for me. Still, I might try the demo.


You can always use the free version SIR1, just has large built in latency (8960 samples).  Still it's good, has a bunch of nice impulses and is stereo.

http://www.knufinke.de/sir/sir1.html

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Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/19 01:11:33 (permalink)
Thanks - yes I have SIR1. I didn't realise that is true stereo too. I used to use it a bit, but started using PerfectSpace a bit more lately. I'll have to compare SIR1 & SIR2 to see how much better it really is. 
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Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/19 01:57:32 (permalink)
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Thanks - yes I have SIR1. I didn't realise that is true stereo too. I used to use it a bit, but started using PerfectSpace a bit more lately. I'll have to compare SIR1 & SIR2 to see how much better it really is. 


I'm not really sure about how SIR1 handles stereo exactly.  If you dig to the comparison page it says there is "stereo processing" in SIR1, but there is a comparison line for "True stereo" and only SIR2 is checked.

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Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/19 06:41:51 (permalink)
For those of you using PerfectSpace for convolution reverb, keep in mind that it isn't a true stereo reverb.
Liquidsonics Reverbrate is true stereo.
http://www.liquidsonics.c..oftware_reverberate.htm
This is a great convolution reverb ;-)

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Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/19 08:49:53 (permalink)
How much difference is there with the native Lexicon and the Pantheon that shipped with 8.5?

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Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/19 10:06:04 (permalink)
How much difference is there with the native Lexicon and the Pantheon that shipped with 8.5?

The Pantheon is nowhere near the quality of the Lexicon PCM native.

Here's what the designer of the PCM Native had to say about the Pantheon: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/high-end/362930-lexicon-reverbs-brief-bestiary-5.html#post4078304

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Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/19 13:19:11 (permalink)
The Pantheon is nowhere near the quality of the Lexicon PCM native.

 
 
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