yorolpal


Now I'm curious...what, exactly, was this typo? 

I think this is an excellent question, and I'm eager to see the answer.

SteveStrummerUK

yorolpal


Now I'm curious...what, exactly, was this typo? 

 
I think ARSON X1 is going to attract the wrong type of customer anyway

ROFPMSL........

thegeek

Also, and Im ending with this, lets all seperate bugs that are due to hardware and/or software incompatibility and bugs which are proven to be inherent to the program's design and not system related. In the latter case, the "too many systems to test it on" arguement doesnt apply so stop using it, its irrelevant.

It's amazing how many people don't understand that ... software developers included. Every single problem I have brought up has been a confirmed bug that has been fixed or is being worked on, yet look at how I get attacked all the time. If there's ever a problem with my system, I fix it, and report what I found. I haven't been able to do that in a very long time. The last one I think IIRC was switching my FTU over from wall to USB power. Which by the way, I only ever had to do in X1, 8.0 and 8.5 worked fine with it plugged in. So was it really a problem with the FTU or some obscure incompatibility between X1 and the drivers?

And finally, besides bugs, there are design choices. Global "snap to grid"? And you are trying to tell me that a "musician" designed that? Sorry guys, he may be a "musican" but he really cant be a DAW user.

Well said.

You know, with common sense like that ... you could have been President of the United States before we turned Socialist. Too late now.

If that's your means of assessment, then yeah, I don't think your means of assessment is a serious or useful one.

Although, in order to get back on topic (my apologies OP but I wanted to reply to some views expressed even though they might be considered off topic to start with) the "independent snap to grid settings" and "last note used" come-backs are very good news which give me hopes that I might someday use the Sonar X series.


edit: also the changes in Buss selection - very well done

SteveStrummerUK
      
I think ARSON X1 is going to attract the wrong type of customer anyway  

might start a flame war. 

Keni

Paul Russell

SteveStrummerUK
  
I think ARSON X1 is going to attract the wrong type of customer anyway

might start a flame war. 

That's a hot one!

Keni

Mitch_I


Compared to the software I've tested, Sonar is pretty clean.

OMG........... You may want to take cover.........

Mitch_I


JClosed's post #276 seems right on to me. He seems to live in the world of software development, which is where I've been for the last 20 years, mainly as a tester on big projects. Compared to the software I've tested, Sonar is pretty clean.

Mitch I.

This is what I am trying to tell, but it falls on deaf ears here. They keep seeing what I try to say as defending Cakewalk.

For your information - I have some experience with programming. I started programming in machine code on the 1802 chip and later on the 6502 family CPU and interfaces (BBC computer and attached custom-build hardware). I have written some toolkits and utility-ROM's for that computer (and the second processor with tube interface) and made some money with it. Later on I jumped to Pascal and C and was mainly writing custom-made office tools and software. My real job however was to design and build audio and video hardware. I quitted a while ago with that job to concentrate me more on the art and music I was doing at the same time. At this moment I also concentrating a bit on the Linux OS, especially the KDE desktop environment (so I know what a uproar a interface change can give, but I also have seen that it can turn out great after some time).

Anyway, I did my best. If people still try to paint me as a Cakewalk fan-boy... well.. I guess there is nothing I can say to make them think otherwise. I guess they are "hard-coded" to do so...

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  45 2001 1.02   1213   1.31   2021   2425   2829 2002 2.1   3637   2.2   4445   4849   5253 2001 3.1   6061   3.11   6869   7273   7677 2004 4.01   8485   4.02   9293   4.03   100101   4.04   108109   112113   116117 2005 5.01   124125   5.2   132133   136137   140141 2006 6.0.1   148149   6.2   156157   6.2.1   164165   168169   172173 2007 7.0.1   180181   7.0.2   188189   7.0.3   196197   200201   204205 2008 8.0.1   212213   8.2.2   220221   8.3.1   228229   8.5   236237 2009 8.5.1   244245   8.5.2   252253   8.5.3   260261 2010          
Most Numbered versions had 4 versions. Version 4 had 5. About the same amount of time (sept to may/june) as X1 (dec to aug). For most versions the last update came at about the 5th month after release.
 
The pattern is clear. No doubt to be replicated ad infinitum, ad nausem, amen.
 
So, I figger, X1 will be complete with update C.  And  then X2 will be coming in late November to sell to the gift crowd. And X2.a will be released early January,.....
 
Can the circle be broken? Not as long as CW managers continue to use version based subscriptions as the revenue model.
 
J

Personally I see this as their' commitment to the users...

They do the best they can to have a new version regularly so as not to make us wait long for fixes and features... Remember that these free updates not only fix things but add new features as well... No cost.

I'm very happy that they work this way. I would not like to wait an unknown period of time for them to release and already knowing that nothing is ever completely bug free in the virtual world OR the real world...

My issues are more with decisions regarding operation and features. I like the subscription-based updates they allow. I'm not forced to update, but I can for a lower fee than buying a new version... I remember once giving up a car towards a new car... this seems much more equitable for me... ;-)

For me, being able to count on timely release of updates (as well as some quick fixes even before the name/system was added) is good. It allows me to know that by a certain (approx) time, I will have some issues dealt with.

Of course I always hope that my issues are in there, but they are not always... I know they have a list of priorities that includes many factors... They do a great job of supplying us with a very workable product.

The large majority of users have systems that work well (not speaking of design preferences)... Yes, there are always some with severe problems....  Many variables to deal with.

That being said, I sit and hope that X1c will even be able to run here as I've heard no word about the driver issue that QuickFix 255 broke for me... I'm using 246 and cannot use 255... and no word about the issue... Am I miffed? Hmmm...

;-)

Keni