...just different views, mudgel....

...anyway, it's not necessarily a question of "bad experience"....

...I just pointed out that those systems do NOT bring ANY good, in the end, but only nuisances (which they do, indeed...) to paying customers... even taking some of them away, after all....

...by the way... I also hate "challenge/response" authorizations, for similar annoying reasons....


...Instead, I honestly believe that Cakewalk is the right, fairest authorization system example out there.....



Until next time,  Steve (GothicAngel)

OK, point taken Mudgel. I still hate those damn dongles. If it prevents software theft, I have no idea and won't get into that because... well, I don't care to be honest but I hope they do

Like I said earlier, I don't mind a dongle in my desktop, but I wouldn't bring it out on stage if I don't absolutely have to. After I got the iLok dongle I have purchased other software that requires it, because I already have the dongle. But on my lap top I use other software than the dongle dependent ones. For a synth which is only a few megs big, or a reverb etc, that can easily be run on a laptop and used live, a dongle would not only take up a USB port I most definitely need for something else and important but it can break off. Not saying it will, but it can and that sucks, and that's enough for me to leave it at home and use something else. The other problem is when you are away from home, ready to play a gig and your dongle is at home. You're screwed! They are an annoyanse in that way. But I respect that people have different views on this. What I am saying is that if software needs a dongle, I'd be making a choice to aquire it depending on whether I'd want to bring it out of the studio as well. That's me, you may think different, but this is an experience from someone who also have aquired a dongle after years of avoiding it.

Another thing, when these things were entering the marked, there were a lot of driver issues and incompatibillity with software updates, other hardware and so forth, which I think we are seeing with the Ignitionkey from Propellerhead today. It is an undeniable fact that this happened but it may be unfairly assumed about dongles today. I don't know. I don't care. I just know I still hate them even after depending on one and having one installed in my DAW.

Do I loose my sleep over it? No.

Hey Zepheron

Sorry for derailing your thread. It got a little out of hand with the whole dongle thing We all have to deal with dongles sooner or later so let's just leave it at that.

Anyways, glad you figured it out. But I wonder, is this specific to that exact MB and the combination of dongles? Wouldn't that mess up other software as well? And one final question, if you removed one of them, did Sonar/other troubled software work?

Sorry again for this; I'm just curious and since the Propellerhead dongle is involved it would help me decide whether I'd upgrade to Reason 6 or not

iLok drivers can be problematic sometimes, but I'd still rather have that then spend hours re-authorising challenge/response on over 80 legit plugins.

Hi gothic.angel,

the ignition key is a Propellerhead named and branded CodeMeter Stick, which uses the CodeMeterControlCenter and the Codemeter firmware.

@Zepheron: Thank you for mention the ASUS board.