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Re: How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar? 2015/07/22 04:16:09 (permalink)
It seems to me that regardless of possible work-arounds here what we want from Cakewalk is an option to select a marker to determine where the end of project is. It would be good if you could have the situation that when you inserted the "end of project" marker a warning message appeared that said - " Warning all data will be deleted beyond this point - do you wish to continue?" That way any Meter/key changes, envelope nodes, tempo changes, midi data, data in archived tracks, data in hidden tracks, data in hidden busses, audio data imported at the wrong time stamp etc. would be removed.
 
You would obviously also need an option to remove the "end of project" marker in case you wished to extend the project. With this as well you could use it inconjuction with the in "end of project" marker solely to remove the unwanted data on your problem projects that played beyond your end of song.
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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar? 2015/07/22 05:18:36 (permalink)
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Why is it that all of my projects stop exactly at the end of the last piece of data, where they should be stopping?
 
If you'd bother to read the countless number of threads on this topic, the conclusion is 100% clear - there is ALWAYS something further down the timeline which has not been picked up by the user.
This could be, but is not restricted to, Meter/key changes, envelope nodes, tempo changes, midi data, data in archived tracks, data in hidden tracks, data in hidden busses, audio data imported at the wrong time stamp.




That's what my brains tell me, but SONAR doesn't know it. I've never had hidden tracks in my projects, I've searched and deleted and whatever the "non-existing end" of the projects countless times. There's no dotted lines or envelope lines continuing past the  end of the project (or no envelopes at all, nothing imported), nothing in the event list etc. etc. Weird enough, the export has always worked correctly. The exported wav has always been of the right length without any timeline selection. The non-stop-phenomenon only occurs during playback.
For some reason the "Stop at project end" check in Options just does sometimes works, sometimes doesn't.

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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar? 2015/07/22 05:42:07 (permalink)
Really weird Kalle, I hope you can find out what causes this to happen.

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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar? 2015/07/22 17:28:29 (permalink)
I use three different computers and transfer projects back and forth between them. On my main DAW, mosts projects are well-behaved and stop playback at the end of the last clip or final node or whatever. But on the second DAW, the same projects will playback forever without stopping.
 

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Re:How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar? 2015/07/22 18:03:33 (permalink)
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I think maybe the question and the answer are not syncing.
Example - I have a 30 minute 4-track tape I want to lay down as 4 separate tracks in Soanr.  Don't get lost in the details here, its not important except for the 30 minutes of tape.  Here is what we want to do:  Hit the "Play" button on the analog 4-track input device and hit the "Record" button in Sonar.  Ok... we're recording.  Now - I want to go to bed!  I want my Sonar system to STOP recording in 30 minutes.  I can't be there to hit the STOP button in Sonar.  I don't want to continuously record while I sleep, only to wake up and say dammit I'm out of hard drive space because I only had 30 minutes of audio to record and Sonar just kept recording and recording and recording...
 

Get it?
 
I want to set it... and forget it....
 
(So, is that what you were looking for?  If not - sorry man.  But that's what I am looking for!  LOL)

Create a midi track for transport control. At 30 min into the project insert a note. Map that note to STOP when coming from your midi input. Loop back your midi output to your midi input with a midi cable.
It would be nice if SONAR could do it without the hardware fix, but this works. I have used it for stopping backing tracks at markers when performing live.

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Re: How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar? 2015/09/13 12:29:56 (permalink)
Hi,
My simple but not elegant way to fix this is to clone the track (just events not effects). Copy Special the original events and Paste Special the events into the copies track without any effects. It works every time.
 
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Re: How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar? 2015/09/13 16:08:00 (permalink)

That's not actually a solution, though your condescension is impressive. 



Thank you!  my sentiments exactly.   It, the OP, is an old problem and I've never found a good solution except vigilance, constant vigilance.   Just today ran a 3 minute project to 40 minutes when I was distracted with other issues.
post edited by williamcopper - 2015/09/13 16:17:15
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Re: How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar? 2015/09/13 18:16:42 (permalink)
Yikes, I didn't mean to be condescending at all. And you are right. It doesn't work. I thought it used to but I guess I was wrong. And I didn't even realize that this was such an old post. I'm brain dead....
 
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Re: How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar? 2015/09/14 01:44:18 (permalink)
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It seems to me that regardless of possible work-arounds here what we want from Cakewalk is an option to select a marker to determine where the end of project is. It would be good if you could have the situation that when you inserted the "end of project" marker a warning message appeared that said - " Warning all data will be deleted beyond this point - do you wish to continue?" That way any Meter/key changes, envelope nodes, tempo changes, midi data, data in archived tracks, data in hidden tracks, data in hidden busses, audio data imported at the wrong time stamp etc. would be removed.
 
You would obviously also need an option to remove the "end of project" marker in case you wished to extend the project. With this as well you could use it inconjuction with the in "end of project" marker solely to remove the unwanted data on your problem projects that played beyond your end of song.


Excellent idea, the exact fix I do believe everyone here is pining for. Rotsa ruck! I would love to see it actually happen. Have had the same problem since......well... since.

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Re: How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar? 2016/06/07 20:15:25 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby abacab 2016/06/08 19:56:51
Under "options" check to see that "stop at project end" is selected. ( i was going to attach an image but this won't let me).
 
 
post edited by phil caldwell - 2016/06/07 20:44:34
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Re: How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar? 2016/06/08 19:39:07 (permalink)
phil caldwell
Under "options" check to see that "stop at project end" is selected. ( i was going to attach an image but this won't let me).
 
 



Wow!!!
 
Thanks!!!
 
You have solved a mystery that has been bugging me for years. I tested your solution in Sonar X2 and X3, and it works!!!
 
Just to clarify it is in the "Options" drop-down menu in the track view.  I couldn't find it in Sonar 8.5, so maybe it just magically appeared with the Skylight update.
 
Edit: Just to update this post for Sonar 8.5, I did find "stop at project end" in the menus.  It is a little more buried without the Skylight GUI.  It can be found at: Options>Global Options>General "stop at project end".
post edited by abacab - 2016/06/11 10:15:06

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Re: How does one set an end time to a recording in Sonar? 2016/06/11 01:38:10 (permalink)
There is no end. The band plays on.

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