Cakewalk needs to get with the program

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Re:Cakewalk needs to get with the program 2012/03/29 11:10:04 (permalink)
+1 Jim

The only future I can see for any sort of tablet in the studio is for use as a remote controller in booths

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Re:Cakewalk needs to get with the program 2012/03/29 11:15:16 (permalink)
The only future I can see for any sort of tablet in the studio is for use as a remote controller in booths

 
That makes good sense... and plays to the strengths of the Tablet (rather than its current limitations).
 

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Re:Cakewalk needs to get with the program 2012/03/29 11:21:50 (permalink)
A big recording studio, with all the trimmings, might argue that nothing can beat the experience of recording and mixing there, along with the quality gear they have at their disposal.  No home studio could match that....

Maybe 20 years ago that was true, but even if it's still true today the fact is that most of us have some type of home studio DAW setup because of convenience and cost.  It won't necessarily replace the "real studio" experience, but we all use our home DAWs for many projects just the same.

I don't think tablet DAWS will replace either of those, but they've come a long way in a very short time and I don't doubt that this trend will continue.
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Re:Cakewalk needs to get with the program 2012/03/29 13:05:54 (permalink)
Cakewalk is with a program it's called Sonar by Cakewalk owned by Roland

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Re:Cakewalk needs to get with the program 2012/03/29 13:42:21 (permalink)
John T


I disagree on that about gaming. If you look at market share, the consoles have lost out heavily to smartphones and tablets in the last year and a half. And the economics of game development have always been really tough on consoles; the new devices are a better business to be in. I think it's notable that the current generation of consoles are now about 6-7 years old, and only Nintendo have a next-gen console in the pipeline. The big console / powerful PC games market is well on its way to becoming a niche.


It's temporary, I'm sure. Multitouch screens are a hot novelty now, they give new, fresh possibilities and are very much a status product now. Gamers want to get inside the action, not keep it on their knees. Gaming will continue to be the force that pushes consumer technology to it's limits what comes to processing power and such. Tablets will form a branch of their own, something you can use on the move.

The kids will get their 100" 3D action game where you can actually punch the textile screen that surrounds you or whatever the vision will be.

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Re:Cakewalk needs to get with the program 2012/03/29 13:47:49 (permalink)
I have to be honest that I think some are looking at this subject and limiting their responses to portions of the broader topic of whether or not tablet technology will advance to the point where it will be possible the things we currently believe a desktop based DAW is required for.  

People keep referring to the input output limitations, as the tablet as a replacement for the studio be it professional, project, or home (I'm unsure how that even fits into the equation as I can't see why one would want to), and the limitations of a touch interface for serious mixing.  I don't really see those as the factors at play.  

In the scenario I see, a tablet could become the center point of a recording system just as the desktop has.  The desktop has limited input and output by itself so we use external interfaces, a PC is only a small component of a studio, whatever that level of studio one is using.  One still requires mics, monitors, keyboards, a mouse, control surfaces (if one chooses to use them).  As the iPAD dock shown earlier, the input/output/monitor control issue can be solved with keeping the console and just using the iPAD as the capturing component.  Think of a mixing desk where a engineer simply comes in, drops their tablet into a dock, launches their DAW and has all the input/output/channel, buss capabilities afforded them from a traditional studio setup, the tablet has simply replaced the DAW portion.  The dock could even have a keyboard and mouse attached, or the tablet could use Bluetooth to perform this connectivity.

Once captured, the engineer could then choose to mix on the console or take the tablet home to work with in say a smaller control surface interface/docking system that has less input/output capabilities such as the Alesis unit shown ealier but with similar controls like say the V-Studio 100 with it's control surface capabilities, motorized fader, ...  Or, they could use the touch interface for mobile mixing if that's what they wanted to do and be completely mobile at times when it was necessary.

In the past 3 decades we have gone from this: 

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The images show how things have gotten smaller, yet exponentially more powerful over a relatively short window of time, and that our way of accomplishing similar results has also changed - we adapt to the technology of our times.  In my scenario the tablet would simply replace the desktop DAW portion, not the other components required.


My thoughts on this subject are less about the "it will happen", and more about the "it could happen" given what I've seen change in my life.  I guess I'm showing my age a little bit but I've been a adult through all this change so far.


Maybe I'm a bit of a dreamer, but I'm certainly not a denier that change happens whether we think it will or not.


Something to ponder.

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Re:Cakewalk needs to get with the program 2012/03/29 14:03:25 (permalink)
I guess we are fond of the way we do things. It's hard to imagine doing music on a tablet because we think in terms of what we need to accomplish now instead of how some operations may become irrelevant in the future.

A bit like someone would have looked at a PC saying - it'll never work, there's no razor blade to splice tape on that mouse.

You can come up with a finished product nowadays w/o the once indispensable drum kits, w/o the collection of mics you once needed to mic it. You can enjoy at least some of the benefits of analog gear through models w/o the need to replace parts. Tuning a piano before a session? Forget about that for most of us. 

Carrying the current tasks w/ a tablet would be a nightmare. But those tasks change too. 

Whenever I comp tracks in my DAW, I'm reminded that I don't need a razorblade, or even just to solo takes or mute another, I don't need to worry about crossfades 99% of the time.

The way we work changes too. Like I said before, I'm not anxious to work w/ tablets, but the way we work isn't set in stone. Things will most likely change like they always do.

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