Jonbouy
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Re:I think I have finally had it with Sonar X1 after 2 months!
2012/05/08 20:21:42
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if i may ask what king of computer set up are you guys running? Do you think that the type of computer will help fix confirmed bugs?
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xabiton
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Re:I think I have finally had it with Sonar X1 after 2 months!
2012/05/08 20:54:00
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Jonbouy xabiton Jonbouy xabiton I am also happy to report that Cakewalk saw this thread and my problem reported and they are in development for a rewire fix. Yay! I've got one of those responses from February last year and a couple from before then. But here's hoping eh?... 1st Feb 2011 CWBRN-3809, Rewire Broken We have logged this issue as an official report with our development team and hope to have it addressed in a future release. And there went the hope that they took my problem seriously Ah, but it's nice to know that you've been acknowledged when those around with rose coloured glasses on come in and are ready to tell you that you've gone mad or that you have to rebuild your machine and re-install your OS or that your interface is garbage, yada, yada. I can honestly state that I've never in my life complained about something working well. I assume that most people are the like that, although I concede there may be exceptions. Yet there seems to be a culture on this particular board that assumes there must be something wrong with you for mentioning a real issue that you are having. It baffles me it really does. Exactly. When you come here with a problem they assume you are a noob who has no clue as to what you are doing more often than acknowledging the actual problem that may or may not be there because they do not have the same problem. I have gone and downloaded Fl Studio 10 also which works perfectly for rewire I just hate the FL gui so much. Debating on going back to Cubase
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Re:I think I have finally had it with Sonar X1 after 2 months!
2012/05/09 00:54:17
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chuckebaby jsg Remember when a defective product was called a "lemon"? After trying out Sonar X1 for 6 months I became convinced this product is a defective "lemon". Color choices that do nothing. Bugs in the staff view that have been there for version after version, with X1 adding new bugs to the staff view. Frequent crashes for many users, automation issues, screensets that are far clunkier and less elegant than layouts in earlier versions, snap functions that work "sometimes", the list goes on. I guess computer programmers are like musicians, some much more talented than others. I don't know how much of the issue with X1 is sloppy programming, and how much is just rushing a product out the door long before it is ready because of "market pressures". The thing is, with X1d, Cakewalk has had plenty of time to fix the issues that many users have voiced complaint about for years. X1 is the last purchase I make from this company unless Cakewalk does some real soul-searching and develops the focus, commitment and ability to create professional-level software. 100% bug-free is not realistic, but after years of customers complaining about the same long-standing bugs, you would think these would be addressed before the software becomes bloated with new features on top of those that don't work correctly in the first place. Why would a company not remove the color choices if they don't work? There is no excuse for this other than a company that, like so many companies in the rotten economic system we live in that feels compelled by "the marketplace" to put profit above everything else of value, including making software that could be so much better if only people cared and had the time to make it right. A properly run company would fix the known bugs before wasting precious resources on adding new features. JG www.jerrygerber.com ive noticed you dont put your specs in your signiture? xabiton hasnt either? if i may ask what king of computer set up are you guys running? I am running Sonar 7.0.2 in 64-bit mode on a fast Windows 7 machine (64-bit) with 16 GB of RAM, 2 fast seagate hard drives, MOTU 2408 sound card, and a 3.07 ghz Intel i7 CPU. all high-end gear. Latency is extremely low. I also use Big Ben as the master clock which keeps jitter and other issues at bay. With a solid piece of software, I find most of the tech issues I encounter are my error. But with X1, I tested it on 3 machines. X1d is, I admit more stable, but the bugs I wrote about are too much to use in a pro scoring environment. JG www.jerrygerber.com
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xabiton
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Re:I think I have finally had it with Sonar X1 after 2 months!
2012/05/09 01:25:02
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Kevwestbeats.com Sonar X1 Studio, Native Instruments Maschine MK2, Akai Miniak, Behringer BCF 2000, Ableton Live 8 and Reason 6 user with a load of plug ins Core i7 Laptop 2.2ghz with 8 gigs of ram.
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Re:I think I have finally had it with Sonar X1 after 2 months!
2012/05/09 01:57:53
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If your reasoning is correct then what accounts for SONAR running well on so many machines? just asking as I'd like to understand.
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Re:I think I have finally had it with Sonar X1 after 2 months!
2012/05/09 02:21:23
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screensets that are far clunkier and less elegant than layouts in earlier versions, Now I'm upset........ While much of your post may be true, that's way off the mark. Layouts aren't even in the same league as screensets for capabilities. As to changing, if they aren't changing virtually instantly on your system, that's not normal behaviour. They should change at about the same speed the multidock opens when pressing D, perhaps a slight perception of being slower but not something you'd measure easily. There's much more you can do with screensets than layouts though. As far as I'm concerned screensets are a new feature and layouts have gone missing.
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chuckebaby
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Re:I think I have finally had it with Sonar X1 after 2 months!
2012/05/09 02:31:33
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FastBikerBoy screensets that are far clunkier and less elegant than layouts in earlier versions, Now I'm upset........ While much of your post may be true, that's way off the mark. Layouts aren't even in the same league as screensets for capabilities. As to changing, if they aren't changing virtually instantly on your system, that's not normal behaviour. They should change at about the same speed the multidock opens when pressing D, perhaps a slight perception of being slower but not something you'd measure easily. There's much more you can do with screensets than layouts though. As far as I'm concerned screensets are a new feature and layouts have gone missing. i cant believe i just read that as well? ive never had a screen set issue,ever,they dont even open slow for me,though i will say i know the floppy issue was slowing down some people.but screen sets is one of my favorite additions to this version.
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chuckebaby
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Re:I think I have finally had it with Sonar X1 after 2 months!
2012/05/09 02:36:47
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xabiton http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+15.6%22+Series+7+Laptop+-+8GB+Memory+-+1TB+Hard+Drive+-+Silver/4708803.p?id=1218512740623&skuId=4708803&st=samsung%207%20series&cp=1&lp=2 here is my laptop. its more than enough to run Sonar or any DAW for that matter. Idk why its so hard to believe that something in the software could just be screwed up rather than my computer. im not sure what your trying to accomplish here,i know you want cakewalk to tell you its all there fault and its got nothing to do with you, but really its not. i will say this though if your using a one tb hard drive as your only means of storage,your going to have an issue in my opinion. think about it,sonar is running right? your storing your song in another sector on that disk that could be very far away from the sector that sonar is on,not to mention your vst;s even further away in another sector on your hard drive. its best to run x1 on a 320 or 500 and store your songs,samples on the one t.b. is the one tb your only hd?
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chuckebaby
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Re:I think I have finally had it with Sonar X1 after 2 months!
2012/05/09 02:39:02
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Jonbouy if i may ask what king of computer set up are you guys running?
Do you think that the type of computer will help fix confirmed bugs? did i say that Jonbouy but that would be the first thing one should ask right?..when trying to help? or maybe you were just throwing it in my face i mis-spelled that word ? ya,funny.
post edited by chuckebaby - 2012/05/09 08:56:37
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