I dunno, having the Sonitus stuff and the Pro Channel here in my little home studio is a big deal to me. There's no way I'm gonna spend $3,000 on a tube compressor...or $2,000 on an EQ, or $3500 on a tube pre-amp....so this is the next best thing in my book. It really does get ridiculous about how much money you can spend on high end gear...That stuff is for superstar millionaires who need stuff to buy for tax write offs. The average Joe is not gonna buy that stuff.

My sound checks are coming out great. I'm very happy with what I'm getting.

Maybe it's me, but i think with plugins there comes a point of diminishing returns. I will freely admit that my audio engineering skills are simply not advanced enough for me to get much difference out of an original LA-2A and the PC version other than the simple differences that come with simply plugging it in.  Not that i am totally incompetent, but I am no Bob katz either and I doubt most of the people on here are either. It's no coincidence that some of the whiniest people on here produce absolute ****. It doesn't take a genius to figure that there is likely some difference between $3000 plugs and $80 plugs.  I $20,000 car is not likely to out perform a $300,000 car on the track, but most of us have the sense to know that the 20k car is practical for the average needs.  Spending $3000 on plugins that you are simply not skilled enough to get anythying other than bragging rights out of is like a poor driver forking over 300k for the bragging rights to go 35mph in city driving.  It's wasteful and you look like a douche trying to compensate for other things.

If you have the bucks for Waves and you actually are earning (or aspire to at the very least), by all means spend it, but the senseless need to pound it in to people that PC, Sonitus etc is nowhere near as good as these higher end things is silly as hell. 

There was a thread in the old Sonar forum where a member posted that various EQs were all the same if one did not use the coloring each would apply as an option. That a null test couldn't show any difference.

 
Sounds about right to me.

I think it's safe to say most anyone who reads and posts in these forums are audio enthusiasts.  As such, we have a love for the gear that defies logic.  Some of us spend more time tinkering with all our toys than we do actually producing music.
 
But when it's time to actually get to work, the best of us use what we have and simply make it work.  All the gear lust and tech talk is fine, but it really isn't going to affect our final products a whole lot, if at all.  At the level of technology we're talking about, the actual difference in sound is almost imperceptible.  The real difference is how the particular product appeals to our individual taste. 
 
I'm not saying there's no value in all the different options, or that some products aren't clearly better engineered than others.  Generally speaking, you get what you pay for.  But all of the stuff we're talking about is already high-end gear.  There's ALWAYS another level, but unless you're scoring for a major motion picture, or producing an album for J-Lo...seriously, nobody's going to know the difference.

Often I am reminded when I read member's posts just how practical and rational the membership is here. Good judgement seems to be a hallmark of members of this forum in great abundance.

 

"The Pro Channel is not as good as it gets. Not even close. Like I said, it's nice for slapping on a track or bus for a quick mix, and yes, there is one module they came out with that I use extensively, but it is by no means "... as good as it gets."

That's just ludicrous to even think when there are so many other offerings out there.

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Hmmmm, this is a curious statement. We use a variety of very higend plugs ( Sony Oxford, McDSP, UAD ) and some of the Pro Channel Modules compare quite favorably to these. The PC la2a emulation in fact, is quite good and we use it extensively on most productions. Does it sound exactly like our hardware La2a, no. But then the UAD dos'nt either nor does the Bomb factory. But they are VERY close and extreemly useable in a real world production environment.

Rule #34  of forum arguments:

Anyone declaring a discussion over will inevitably return to that discussion to have the last word. :)

dubdisciple

Rule #34  of forum arguments:

Anyone declaring a discussion over will inevitably return to that discussion to have the last word. :)

Hmmm ... I thought that was Rule #28. You guys gotta stop changing the manual, or at least put me on the update mailing list!





I blocked him, so there should be no more discussions to declare an end to, well, except for this last one here where I'm saying I blocked him and the conversation is over. But after this, no more! Doh!

So Bub blocked me. Now I can talk about him behind his back.

That Dubdisciple is hilarious!!

dubdisciple

John!!  what an awful thing to say about Bub's momma!.

LOL!

I honestly have no idea what he said, I really do have him blocked now.

I harbor no ill will toward him or anyone. We just don't see things the same way, that's all. No biggie. :)

shhhhh this could get fun.