rabeach

EDIT =  I just skimmed that sfz myself...  we all knew this was only a 4 layer kit.  and its crap.  its poorly sampled crap.  Is this what is in, "the big expensive, and overly marketed, "Steven Slate Drums."

The sfz file posted above shows snare 1 group has 20 wav files associated with it. Looks like there are 5 velocity layers and 4 wave files for each layer.  The software generates a random number and if it falls within the boundries of lorand and hirand then that wav file gets played for that velocity layer. 

rabeach

EDIT =  I just skimmed that sfz myself...  we all knew this was only a 4 layer kit.  and its crap.  its poorly sampled crap.  Is this what is in, "the big expensive, and overly marketed, "Steven Slate Drums."

The sfz file posted above shows snare 1 group has 20 wav files associated with it. Looks like there are 5 velocity layers and 4 wave files for each layer.  The software generates a random number and if it falls within the boundries of lorand and hirand then that wav file gets played for that velocity layer. 

chuckebaby


stoons,
 
do you own sonar x1 producer?
  

i just read another thread that said you have not upgraded as of yet?
is this true?
 
and if so..then where did this data come from? sonar 8.5 ?? 
 
this is the sonar x1 forum.not the sonar producer and studio forum.
if this is data from 8.5 then its not the same.
session drummer 3 was updated in sonar x1. 

chuckebaby

SToons

chuckebaby


stoons,
 
do you own sonar x1 producer?
  

i just read another thread that said you have not upgraded as of yet?
is this true?
 
and if so..then where did this data come from? sonar 8.5 ?? 
 
this is the sonar x1 forum.not the sonar producer and studio forum.
if this is data from 8.5 then its not the same.
session drummer 3 was updated in sonar x1. 

Get a life. And learn to read.

i was just asking a question and i guess you just gave the answer to that.
 
you dont have sonar x1 producer,your talking about the session drummer 3 kit from a release 5 years ago in sonar 8.5
 
but if you mean "LEARN TO READ" like i may have learning disability when its possible maybe i missed something
or "GET A LIFE" as in i am worthless.
then congradulations for sinking to new lows and showing everyone here who you really are.
i will defend myself as any adult would by just saying nothing hit clicking the button that says REPORTED. 
 
 
EDIT:
 
i have just re-read this whole thread and i cant find anywhere you talk about where you got the data from for this?
you tell me to learn how to read,yet,i cant read anything thats not here man ??
so if you dont own sonar x1(that includes session drummer 3) then where did you get this velocity data from?
was it from sonar 8.5 ?
thats was released 5 years ago?
at one point i see you make refference to session drummer 3 being a cakewalk instrument.
maybe you bought sd3 recently..but why would you..you own 8.5 right?
 
see this is whats confusing.
you are only giving us the data that you want to give us.
you have no info in your signiture that would tell what version you are using.
nor when confronted about where you got this data from you easily just avoid the question by saying "get a life".."learn to read."
well im reading,problem is...im not seeing. 
 

SToons

bladetragic


I've honestly never really used Session Drummer. So is this a matter of the software itself??? Or is it just the content w/in the software that is the issue, and if so are expansions from companies like Platinum Samples and Sonic Reality a viable solution to the problem???

 
The software is essentially two different pieces. Well, three in a sense.
 
For one there is Session Drummer. Think of that as the sample player only with a mixer attached.
 
The second piece, the SFZ file which you load, is a set of instructions -and- controls. All the knobs you can turn in samplers like Filters, LFO's, ADSR Envelopes etc. can be 'invisibly' set up in this file and subsequently controlled thru midi data. You just can't see them in Session Drummer's interface. I don't know for a fact if SDRummer supports every feature of the SFZ format but the included Cakewalk SFZ Player does. It is detailed here:
http://www.cakewalk.com/DevXchange/article.aspx?aid=108
and discussed here:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr08/articles/sonartech_0408.htm
 
The third piece would be the samples which are also controlled via the SFZ file. Essentially SDrummer is a sampler whose interface is primarily text in a document.
 
Session Drummer is essentially a glorified SF2 (soundfont) with a prettier interface.
 
Expansions are definitely a viable alternative, however as with all sample content there are no guarantees - buyer beware. There is no problem with Session Drummer. In this case even the content (the waves) were good, only the instructions (the SFZ) were questionable and, as was demonstrated, the instructions can in fact be modified to get better results. My "rant" (discussion) was concerning the fact that the content providers were unneccesarily guilty of the same quality control issues that plagues much software. There are things I'd rather do than have to edit provided content to make it useable. Oh well, I am happy to see that the Slate Drums can sound as good, as my initial impressions were...<barf>. Someone who actually knows the format should be able to do a better job than I can, hope to see that happen eventually.