Lynn
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Re:TH2 vs Guitar Rig.
2012/09/24 11:34:59
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I'm loving the TH2 full version. One of the features I like best is the search function. Once in search, you can use your arrow keys to go from one sound to another which makes comparisons so easy. The program is so tweakable that I can easily create any sound that comes to mind. I still love my Line 6 AX2-212, but the convenience of plugging into my interface is overwhelming. Guitar Rig is still with me, but gathering dust right now, although I still can find use for the bass settings.
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Re:TH2 vs Guitar Rig.
2012/09/24 12:24:39
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Just a piece of advice as well.... it will help your sound if you use a tube pre-amp. There are many 12ax7 tube preamps on the market at a reasonable cost. Signal Chain Matters!
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Re:TH2 vs Guitar Rig.
2012/09/24 14:44:31
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pdlstl markyzno I did find the more cleaner sounds on TH2 to be quite lovely (Although dealing primarily with Noise Rock and Grunge thats not too much help for me) I have now also used TH2 in conjunction with Gtr Rig to good effect. But, the interface is just ghastly...The whole scrolling around modules is way too infantile... Why they made the GUI like this is beyond me. That just shows to go ya'... I've always thought how cartoon-ish the GR interface looks. But, I guess its okay if you like neon and fizzy guitar tones. I agree with the whole fizzy neon guitar tone thing and the cartoonish looking interface in GR. There is no need to scroll in TH2 if you don't want to. Just open the view map and click on the part of the signal chain you want to tweek. Also if you don't like the floor you can change it by right clicking on the floor and choosing another design. For me TH2 is one of those amp sims that you begin to like overtime as you play with it. Once you discover all the functions and how to use them you begin to realize how great it is. If you don't like tweeking or playing around with amp sims. If you just want to load a preset and go then you may not like TH2 or appreciate all of it's features. It may not seem that much different than anything else out there. I have discovered that the more I play with it the more i like it. At first I did not like the effects. I hated the way the gates worked. it seemed to me they should have included some of those gates in the heavy guitar tones to remove some of the his TH2 works well with other amp sims. It plays nice with my line 6 effects and Pod farm. But what I am beginning to discover as that TH2 and the new R mix work incredibly well together. especially for noise reduction.
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Re:TH2 vs Guitar Rig.
2012/09/24 17:18:37
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I was quite impressed with the sound of TH2. I've been using GR for some years and I instantly felt that I never will be using GR again after trying out TH2 for a couple of hours. /M
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Re:TH2 vs Guitar Rig.
2012/09/25 10:13:06
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I was quite impressed with the sound of TH2. I've been using GR for some years and I instantly felt that I never will be using GR again after trying out TH2 for a couple of hours. Really? My experience was the exact opposite.
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Re:TH2 vs Guitar Rig.
2012/09/25 11:11:13
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hockeyjx I was quite impressed with the sound of TH2. I've been using GR for some years and I instantly felt that I never will be using GR again after trying out TH2 for a couple of hours. Really? My experience was the exact opposite. It might depend on the kind of guitar you use. For me, my Telecaster sounds way better through TH2 than it does through Guitar Rig. For a guitar with humbuckers, it may be the opposite.
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Re:TH2 vs Guitar Rig.
2012/09/25 13:35:32
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It might depend on the kind of guitar you use Absolutely. I will do a shootout! I have a Carvin Tele, a Les Paul Standard. Also, it does really depend on what kind of music you play too and what you are looking to get out of it. I'll have to really delve in to TH2 more, but not impressed so far... to me, it is on the same level as AmpliTube3. Which is second chair to GR5.
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Re:TH2 vs Guitar Rig.
2012/09/27 23:21:40
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I find it rather odd that they have the signal flow in the GUI going left to right. They spent all that time modeling the pedal and missed that the input is on the right and the output on the left?
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Re:TH2 vs Guitar Rig.
2012/09/28 09:47:51
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First Post doing my best not to make an arse / ass of myself. Qualifying this post by saying havent really plated with amp sims a lot I have never been friendly with GR I found it annoying to use and if it was hardware I could of quite possibly broken it. Not my best quality. Anyway having said that TH2 was easy, open it up and press go so to speak input flow seemed logical to me sounded as good as any sim I have heard all good :) Except Bought the upgrade full version and now I appear to have one (Full version) that will work stand alone ... lovely and the version that came with X2 that opens as a VST. Tried reinstalling TH2 and no luck there At a bit of a loss if anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate it Paul
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Re:TH2 vs Guitar Rig.
2012/09/28 11:46:43
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mikey "But, the interface is just ghastly...The whole scrolling around modules is way too infantile... Why they made the GUI like this is beyond me. " For TH2 Im the opposite in that I like the way the interface is laid out, it seems logical to me to arrange the parts in the way signal flows. There is no mystery in how it should sound and work in doing it this way. As always YMMV... +1
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Re:TH2 vs Guitar Rig.
2012/09/28 13:11:20
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anotherpaul First Post doing my best not to make an arse / ass of myself. Qualifying this post by saying havent really plated with amp sims a lot I have never been friendly with GR I found it annoying to use and if it was hardware I could of quite possibly broken it. Not my best quality. Anyway having said that TH2 was easy, open it up and press go so to speak input flow seemed logical to me sounded as good as any sim I have heard all good :) Except Bought the upgrade full version and now I appear to have one (Full version) that will work stand alone ... lovely and the version that came with X2 that opens as a VST. Tried reinstalling TH2 and no luck there At a bit of a loss if anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate it Paul I just installed it this morning and noticed that the full version wanted to install the VST plugin in the Overloud\TH2 folder and not in my Cakewalk\VSTPlugins folder, so I changed the path when I installed it. If you didn't either change the path when installing, or add the path to the VST from within SONAR it wouldn't pick it up on scanning if you install to the default location.
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Re:TH2 vs Guitar Rig.
2012/09/28 16:26:25
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I need to remind everyone who are disappointed with TH2 to give the THD amp model a spin! It really acts like one of those little 5 watt class A tube amps that are so popular these days. I have nothing else in my arsenal that does that (I have PodFarm, Guitar Rig 5 Pro, Scuffham S-Gear and Amplitube Free)!
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anotherpaul
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Re:TH2 vs Guitar Rig.
2012/09/29 04:34:45
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Genghis anotherpaul First Post doing my best not to make an arse / ass of myself. Qualifying this post by saying havent really plated with amp sims a lot I have never been friendly with GR I found it annoying to use and if it was hardware I could of quite possibly broken it. Not my best quality. Anyway having said that TH2 was easy, open it up and press go so to speak input flow seemed logical to me sounded as good as any sim I have heard all good :) Except Bought the upgrade full version and now I appear to have one (Full version) that will work stand alone ... lovely and the version that came with X2 that opens as a VST. Tried reinstalling TH2 and no luck there At a bit of a loss if anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate it Paul I just installed it this morning and noticed that the full version wanted to install the VST plugin in the Overloud\TH2 folder and not in my Cakewalk\VSTPlugins folder, so I changed the path when I installed it. If you didn't either change the path when installing, or add the path to the VST from within SONAR it wouldn't pick it up on scanning if you install to the default location. Thanks Genghis much appreciated works like a charm now
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Re:TH2 vs Guitar Rig.
2012/09/29 04:45:24
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anotherpaul Genghis anotherpaul First Post doing my best not to make an arse / ass of myself. Qualifying this post by saying havent really plated with amp sims a lot I have never been friendly with GR I found it annoying to use and if it was hardware I could of quite possibly broken it. Not my best quality. Anyway having said that TH2 was easy, open it up and press go so to speak input flow seemed logical to me sounded as good as any sim I have heard all good :) Except Bought the upgrade full version and now I appear to have one (Full version) that will work stand alone ... lovely and the version that came with X2 that opens as a VST. Tried reinstalling TH2 and no luck there At a bit of a loss if anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate it Paul I just installed it this morning and noticed that the full version wanted to install the VST plugin in the Overloud\TH2 folder and not in my Cakewalk\VSTPlugins folder, so I changed the path when I installed it. If you didn't either change the path when installing, or add the path to the VST from within SONAR it wouldn't pick it up on scanning if you install to the default location. Thanks Genghis much appreciated works like a charm now Welcome to the SONAR forum Paul. Notice in my signature I"m just up the road about 90klms in Linton (near Ballarat)
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Re:TH2 vs Guitar Rig.
2012/09/30 09:08:50
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mudgel anotherpaul Genghis anotherpaul First Post doing my best not to make an arse / ass of myself. Qualifying this post by saying havent really plated with amp sims a lot I have never been friendly with GR I found it annoying to use and if it was hardware I could of quite possibly broken it. Not my best quality. Anyway having said that TH2 was easy, open it up and press go so to speak input flow seemed logical to me sounded as good as any sim I have heard all good :) Except Bought the upgrade full version and now I appear to have one (Full version) that will work stand alone ... lovely and the version that came with X2 that opens as a VST. Tried reinstalling TH2 and no luck there At a bit of a loss if anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate it Paul I just installed it this morning and noticed that the full version wanted to install the VST plugin in the Overloud\TH2 folder and not in my Cakewalk\VSTPlugins folder, so I changed the path when I installed it. If you didn't either change the path when installing, or add the path to the VST from within SONAR it wouldn't pick it up on scanning if you install to the default location. Thanks Genghis much appreciated works like a charm now Welcome to the SONAR forum Paul. Notice in my signature I"m just up the road about 90klms in Linton (near Ballarat) It took me a while to involve myself been reading for a while I had noticed someone "local" here Thanks for the welcome
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Re:TH2 vs Guitar Rig.
2012/10/01 00:40:48
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I have 3 amp sims - now that TH2 is included in X2. I'm surprised no one has mentioned PodFarm 2.5. Although I really like Guitar Rig 5 and its wealth of sounds and I'm just getting used to experimenting with TH2, I get the sounds that sound the most like real stuff out of PodFarm. It's my go to first. My second and frequent alternative is GR5. I've yet to see or hear anything satisfying from TH2, but I've barely gotten started with it.
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SimpleSimon
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Re:TH2 vs Guitar Rig.
2012/10/01 01:43:22
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☄ Helpfulby Mistergreen 2014/06/24 09:36:14
Just started playing with TH2 - Producer version was good (nice tones) but got really interested when I installed the full upgrade. Much better selection of presets to get up and running quickly. As suggested above I found TH2 to have much nicer tones for my tele than GR5. I look forward to playing with it a bit more. I actually enjoy the lack of effects compared to GR5. Good tone first - add the effects for some makeup later. There's plenty of flexibility in SONAR to do that. Cheers
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Re:TH2 vs Guitar Rig.
2012/10/01 22:51:43
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I dunno...TH2 doesn't seem to be as responsive as GR5. By that I mean, the knobs don't do much. I turn a knob and nothing much happens...I get much better sounds out of GR5. So for now I'm sticking with GR5 as my goto. Maybe It's because I'm new to it, and haven't used it much, but I couldn't get a usable sound out of it. I'll play around with it some more, maybe I'll find something I like.
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hockeyjx
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Re:TH2 vs Guitar Rig.
2012/10/01 23:16:47
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I know I've said this before..... when I turn the volume knob half-way on my guitars, GR5 responds more realistically IMO than AmpliTube or TH2. In fact, I like the sound with the volume about on 8 on my guitar. I can get that good AC/DC tone on a Les Paul, A real clean strat sound on my Carvin. I do think AmpliTube's cleaner sounds are marginally better, sans it doesn't express my pick attack as well. Try LePou and AcmeBarGig. Worth trying for free.
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Re:TH2 vs Guitar Rig.
2012/10/01 23:33:34
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I love the sound you get when you put vintage synth sounds through some of the guitar presets in GR.
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