I tested my system now for 3 days ...also used the access ´s usb sound card ....still it has this delay on recordings on my sonar x1 expanded ....well I dunno ,sry

THambrecht


I have a similar problem with the Access TI.
It takes up to 2000 ms (2 seconds !!) to hear a sound, by pressing a key. When I record the Access TI to Sonar X2, I can go drinking coffee, before I hear the sound.
I read in german forums that this must be a problem with drivers from Access. 
 
I bought the access TI for a few days and this was my first experience. I still have no solution.

OK 

The Ti was just pluged in , and the newest OS and drivers were installed ----my PC Intel Dx58SO .....and MOTU ultralite (MK1) via FW ....(TI on DX 58SO)

I loaded the plugin of access TI into my X1 exp. which is using the MOTUS main outs to feed my SPL2 and its attached dynaudios.
All fine ...sound good ... Use USB and analog for comparison a few hours ....found USB outs of access sounding good ....so started 2 record the first arpeggios.... I use 44khz 32Bit in sonar x1.
....To find out that the recordings did not allign perfectly with the midi data ...20-100ms .
tryed different presets ,snares .....bells with fast attacks......again while rendering it in sonar X1 exp. it would not even record the first snare hit ; or bell "stroke" ...I have experimented ; put an EXTRA empty Bar at the start point of the recording , so the bounce would first glide over an empty bar of no data .....it worked ,,,,,Only then the recording would be tight and right on the spot on the first bar ; exact on the first samples ......like it was programmed as midi (eg. snare ,bells ,fast attax sound). 
I also switched to USB access ´s audio drivers ; same issue in my X1 exp. with it .
I did everything that access setup for sonar has instructed.

PS : I can only come to the conclusion ,that my sonar X1 exp is not right tweaked ...it has so many options ; I highly start 2 think they are not best for my PC ?
I need to change them sure........ somehow
DPC check latency:   ....GOOD!

system (harddrives very full ...but ) 


kindest regards  
ari

John

because some just dont want AND cant calm down if they are stopped in workflow .......some are different ! I got realy nervous ,this access cost 1200 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have no workflow at present. Otherwise you wouldn't be here.

Now how is your TI hooked up to your computer and what is the symptom? What are you trying to do? A step by step description will help us understand whats going on. 

The access TI plugin is a controll software for the synths sounds .Containig a sound  browser ; output selections , and the common synth parameters pages like OSC setup and Filter setup.
I believe it is quit the same as the KORG M3´s integration plugin.
Its VST.


Realy the trick with the empty bar ,seems to work ...but its not so cool. I  have to let the rendering include an empty midi bar , then its tight . So sonar seems to have a jump in record problem with my TI ? .
kindest regards


ari

yes triggering within X1 -

I just put buffer up to 500 ...still the same delay on recordings .

kind regards 
ari


PS: for some strange reason in the preferences menue synch and caching of audio ,THE tab "record latency Adjustment" I can not select any device rather then a low generic asio ----it shows all others like the motu or access usb ; but if selected ; it will just jump back to the Generic low asio driver ? This is the problem I guess.

sequencer mode 

If used with the plugin ,it jumps there .


kind regards

ari

The access forum also claims X1 to be faulty with access tI ....dunno--I write the cakewlk programmers now ---

but thanx for the great help , I apreciate the "great" concerns 


   

yes 


Instrument track ,with a folder I have this option



bros I ate choccolate now ...Im easy again , sorry for caps ...


PS: for some strange reason in the preferences menue (sonar)  synch and caching of audio ,THE tab "record latency Adjustment" I can not select any device rather then a low generic asio ----it shows all others like the motu or access usb ; but if selected ; it will just jump back to the Generic low asio driver ? This is the problem I guess. 

Hi

for some strange reason in the preferences menue synch and caching of audio ,the tab "record latency Adjustment" I can not select any device rather then a low generic asio ----it shows all others like the motu or access usb ; but if selected ; it will just jump back to the Generic low asio driver ? This is the problem I guess. 
I do have the MOTUS ins and outs active , still I cant put MOTU in the setting ? I have no clue why .



I tryed the metronome trick and splitting instrument trax ,still 100ms late the recorded TI .


kind regards 


ari

kind regards 


ari

well at least the recording is tight and right on spot if you let X1 first glide over an empty midi bar while bouncing to audio .......its not perfect !

It should also work if I start recording right at the start of the midi data ........

Heroics


So I see it corect ? Like stated in ACCESS forum ? SONAR X1 is NOT compatible with ACCESS TI?


what a nice surprise !


you got another on elike this ?


Cause I aint laughing no moe





kind regards 


ari

(in the name of maybe a whole country which WAS thinking about getting SONAR ..........

BUT  Issues with TI access????????

Its a nO go !

I just hooked the snow first to a cubase ....and there I did not have to take in count the first measure and such .......dunno ......made me mad .....have agreat day all of you !  


BUt its good to know about that 1 and second measure thingey ....we are not all professors out there ^^ 

appreciate this forum ,it realy helps if realy needed ......

bamshizles 

  


Siege them with sound !

Mystic38


So, I hope you realise it is common, accepted and standard practice for the last 20 years for a project with midi information for the track to actually start at measure 2...

ALL midi gear (including the virus) takes time to sync to a host and frequently there is significant control & setup information being sent from a sequencer to the synth... patch changes, part volume & pan levels, RPN, NRPN and modulation information. having this information being dumped at the same time as note information can cause problems.


To close, there are no issues with latency or midi event timing with the Virus Ti & Sonar if you ensure the first Virus clip starts at measure 1, with song start at measure 2.

Heroics


what is ur problem ?

10K users in this forum ,can not explain why this "outa synch" thing with access TI is in sonar ?

We use TI 

Judah

Kenneth


Don't feed it.

+1
LOL

I have learned that a one measure count in is absolut normal for the sequencer to get a grip of the datas .......also in cubase the nowtime line would start 1 measure in front of the access midi data ---yes !