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Re:I sure hope they release an update for X2 soon.
2012/11/09 20:19:56
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> @ Alex have you experienced any of theses issues????????
Nope but I'll sure be looking out for them now. From your description they appear at first glance to be X2 issues and not a device driver issue. I say log 'em for their QA to test and be damned :).
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Re:I sure hope they release an update for X2 soon.
2012/11/09 20:40:34
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It makes absolutely no sense that X2 users would need to have Visual Studio. For one thing, Visual Studio 2012 is not free. For another thing, it's for software developers.
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Re:I sure hope they release an update for X2 soon.
2012/11/09 20:48:37
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Wouldn't install Visual studio and Sonar on the same partition at all (I've got it on another partition for software development). Too bloaty.
Library for C++ could make sense (which comes with Visual studio), but Sonar should install the necessary C++ libraries anyway and Microsoft should update them with Windows update if required (assuming they are using a shared C++ library).
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StarTekh
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Re:I sure hope they release an update for X2 soon.
2012/11/09 20:49:32
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Does installing Visual Studio really help ? Was Key here to video immages !! and how x-2 draws !
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Keni
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Re:I sure hope they release an update for X2 soon.
2012/11/09 20:55:01
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sharke
You don't have to use lanes though. It's optional.
Hi sharke...
Using Sonar is optional as well if you want to look at it that way. Working with layers has long been part of my most important workflow and lanes are the replacement... if I want or need to edit clips that overlap each other ion the same track, I must use lanes and I can't say I'm happy with them. I find them terribly abusive to my work flow as well as very difficult for me to see with their' zoom issues...
they have made a a very unhappy camper right now so I'm anxiously awaiting the update in hopes that the Bakers have found and implemented some method(s) of dealing with these issues...
...and more to the point, I didn't think I was in a competition here... simply a frustrated X2 user in need of a helpful (for me) update...
Keni
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Re:I sure hope they release an update for X2 soon.
2012/11/09 20:56:18
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Re:I sure hope they release an update for X2 soon.
2012/11/09 21:54:53
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Keni
Hi sharke...
Using Sonar is optional as well if you want to look at it that way. Working with layers has long been part of my most important workflow and lanes are the replacement... if I want or need to edit clips that overlap each other ion the same track, I must use lanes and I can't say I'm happy with them. I find them terribly abusive to my work flow as well as very difficult for me to see with their' zoom issues...
they have made a a very unhappy camper right now so I'm anxiously awaiting the update in hopes that the Bakers have found and implemented some method(s) of dealing with these issues...
...and more to the point, I didn't think I was in a competition here... simply a frustrated X2 user in need of a helpful (for me) update...
Keni
I was under the impression, from what they said in the webinar, that lanes were totally optional and you could use layers exactly the same way as before if you preferred this. I've also heard it said on this forum, too....can someone confirm this?
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Re:I sure hope they release an update for X2 soon.
2012/11/09 23:41:35
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Again..... There are many things that need to be updated. The idea that something shouldn't be fixed because ONE or two members have not encountered it is lame. There are all kinds of confirmed bugs and issues that hopefully will get solved. In the meantime, I'm on standby........hoping.........
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Re:I sure hope they release an update for X2 soon.
2012/11/10 12:57:47
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mleghorn
It makes absolutely no sense that X2 users would need to have Visual Studio. For one thing, Visual Studio 2012 is not free. For another thing, it's for software developers.
Yeah, that's my thinking as well, though Visual Studio express editions are free. The only way this could make sense is if there's some newer version of some .DLL or something like that that gets installed with Visual Studio that is not yet available through Windows Update. Other than that it just doesn't make sense to me. John
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Re:I sure hope they release an update for X2 soon.
2012/11/10 15:40:07
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@Sharke > When they say Lanes are optional, I think they are only talking about automation lanes. You can't go back to layers as they were before... but if you collapse the automation Lanes, you can see the ghosted envelopes with the wave form as you used to. If you hold down the shift button as you mouse over the various envelopes, you can identify the envelopes. If you then click on one, it activates that envelope. I often do this for touching up or where I want to see the track full screen for finer work. You can maximize the track (harder to do with the automation lanes). You can also see the wave form under the envelope rather than above it.
When you are told you can do it the old way or the new way, I think the new way is to do envelope automation in-lane where the old way is to do envelope automation with lanes collapsed.
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Re:I sure hope they release an update for X2 soon.
2012/11/11 00:07:32
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sharke
Keni
Hi sharke...
Using Sonar is optional as well if you want to look at it that way. Working with layers has long been part of my most important workflow and lanes are the replacement... if I want or need to edit clips that overlap each other ion the same track, I must use lanes and I can't say I'm happy with them. I find them terribly abusive to my work flow as well as very difficult for me to see with their' zoom issues...
they have made a a very unhappy camper right now so I'm anxiously awaiting the update in hopes that the Bakers have found and implemented some method(s) of dealing with these issues...
...and more to the point, I didn't think I was in a competition here... simply a frustrated X2 user in need of a helpful (for me) update...
Keni
I was under the impression, from what they said in the webinar, that lanes were totally optional and you could use layers exactly the same way as before if you preferred this. I've also heard it said on this forum, too....can someone confirm this?
I think you're remembering what we all wished for... But as far as I know (and I have been talking about this on the forum quite a bit), we're stuck with lanes for now... On top of all the extra clicks to keep re-sizing the track so that we can get at the lane button (and I must turn them on and off far too many times to deal with things right now) I'm constantly re-deploying (shift-f) the tracks to show more lanes.... I'm really sick of it already... I did find one saving grace for lanes (for me) At least we can re-size the data display of each track's waveform which we could not do with layers... See... I found "something" good about lanes! (for me)... Now If I could only get rid of them and go back to layers... Even with their' bugs I was far happier and working much easier... Keni
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Re:I sure hope they release an update for X2 soon.
2012/11/11 13:10:10
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Hi Keni
I installed and used X2 for a couple of days, but I found it a little unstable on my system - lots of jerky type screen stuff and a few other minor irritations - so I have gone back to X1, which is rock solid - also X1 has layers!
I shall put X2 to one side and will try again after the first patch release - however I think with my brief flirtation with X2 I will probably be with you on lanes - I personally had few issues with layers and I suppose more importantly was very used to using them - using lanes will be a learning curve no doubt!
Have you thought about going back to X1 for the time being?
Nigel
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Re:I sure hope they release an update for X2 soon.
2012/11/11 19:59:34
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Bajan Blue
Hi Keni
I installed and used X2 for a couple of days, but I found it a little unstable on my system - lots of jerky type screen stuff and a few other minor irritations - so I have gone back to X1, which is rock solid - also X1 has layers!
I shall put X2 to one side and will try again after the first patch release - however I think with my brief flirtation with X2 I will probably be with you on lanes - I personally had few issues with layers and I suppose more importantly was very used to using them - using lanes will be a learning curve no doubt!
Have you thought about going back to X1 for the time being?
Nigel
Hi Nigel... Yes... The more I work in X2 the more I return tio X1 for most of my work. As I learn X2, I feel less need to try and X1 is working better... But then I miss some of the simple things that X2 added ( such as better selection techiques for selecting clips) and get stymied again... Much as I did moving from 8.5.3 to X1. X1 was a steep learning curve while X2 is not, but so far I'm moving away from many of the new things that I was intrigued by such as the auto track zoom and the smart grid/snap features... they turn out to be more 'trouble' for me than assistnace but at least I can simply choose to ignore them... I also lose some nice touches such as the th2, console emulation and breverb2... Too bad this program isn't built so that we could import/export features from various versions and create personal feature sets! ;-) Keni
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Re:I sure hope they release an update for X2 soon.
2012/11/11 21:13:05
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Keni
Too bad this program isn't built so that we could import/export features from various versions and create personal feature sets! ;-)
Wow Keni! That is one hell of a awesome idea
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Re:I sure hope they release an update for X2 soon.
2012/11/11 21:51:09
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Keni
Too bad this program isn't built so that we could import/export features from various versions and create personal feature sets! ;-)
Wow Keni! That is one hell of a awesome idea
Thanks Glenn... Too bad we won't get something like this until the day before direct brain control is available! ;-) Keni
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