CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss)

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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/11 14:42:00 (permalink)
unfortunately sometimes yes, developed by musicians for musicians - that will mean that certain things like midi and vsts are going to be a bit lacking compared to the audio handling capabilities and recording/editing.  cubase, who developed the vst standard, will always have an advantage there with soft synths and midi as they are wholly invested in it and are constantly building around it.  

 
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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/11 14:43:49 (permalink)
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On a related note, the one time I tried to step record some MIDI data in X2, I noticed that when I entered a rest, Sonar started a new clip on the next note. So if you entered 10 notes with 3 rests between them, you'd end up with 4 separate clips. Is this normal? I found it very annoying. 

hmmm.... gonna try that.

EDIT - just tried it.  didn't happen. got one long clip. how are you entering rests??
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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/11 14:46:39 (permalink)
Ax - Did you happen to write the Fostex VF160EX 16-Track Recorder user manual :-) gs
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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/11 15:10:29 (permalink)
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sharke


On a related note, the one time I tried to step record some MIDI data in X2, I noticed that when I entered a rest, Sonar started a new clip on the next note. So if you entered 10 notes with 3 rests between them, you'd end up with 4 separate clips. Is this normal? I found it very annoying. 

hmmm.... gonna try that.

EDIT - just tried it.  didn't happen. got one long clip. how are you entering rests??

Just tried it again myself, using both beat advance and step advance, and it worked fine for me as well! God knows why it was doing that the last time. 

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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/11 15:28:27 (permalink)
yeah funny how that kinda stuff happens sometimes right?? i'm starting to think i'm in some kind of bizzaro sequencing time-warp alternate universe.

 
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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/11 15:34:04 (permalink)
These things happen for a purpose. To make us look stupid. 

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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/11 15:36:57 (permalink)
yeah, well, i didn't need to pay for it... the girlfriend does it for free... 

 
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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/13 10:02:57 (permalink)
you're right sharke, I also find it annoying. I think that there is not a lot of people using PRV, which is why this tool is not properly developed. that lost time with these manipulations.

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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/13 10:59:21 (permalink)
Axl59, Please read this post thoroughly.  I am not going to blast you, or make fun of you, I am only going to try to explain some things to you so that you can help us to help you.

1.  This forum is FULL of people that truly bend over backwards to try to help each other.
2.  The folks here in the forum have an expectation that people that post here are actually seeking help, and not just ranting.  When people post without specifics on their issues and simply complain, the forum folks generally interpret that person to be a 'troll', 'idiot', or something along those lines.  Please understand that if WE cannot view details on whatever problems someone is posting about, then there is NO possible way to help that person.  If you truly want help, then you MUST post specifics on the issue.
3.  The folks in the forum also have in almost all cases learned what they know through many many many hours of reading documentation, experimenting, and collaboratively working out problem solutions whenever possible.  As a result of that, most folks in the forum have an expectation, which is a reasonable one, that PRIOR to posting a complaint about something that the poster would search the documentation, look for YouTube clips, or search in Google for possible solutions or explanations on the issue the poster is having.  Posting a complaint without doing some basic research is extremely lazy, and it is quite rude to expect others to invest time in explaining something that is easily found in a manual, online documentation, or other thread postings.  It is obvious that you have not done ANY basic research into this issue you are having.
4.  There is an EXTREMELY low tolerance in this forum for people that have posted issues/problems/complaints when the poster ignores suggestions from folks that have responded, either for requests for additional detail on a problem, or not trying things that have been suggested as possible solutions or workarounds to posted issues.

It is evident that there are some communication issues for you, perhaps you are not a native English speaking individual.  That's OK - nobody here has any issue with that, in fact it is pretty cool having folks from all kinds of cultures and corners of the globe here in this community.  Since these issues ARE present, if you do not understand something someone has posted - all you have to do is say so - just ask for additional explanation and many times someone will accommodate that request - often folks will create video clips in those situations so that you can see  a solution presented visually - bypassing any language problems.

SOOOOOO - If you want help for this issue, please go back and review the posts that have been made, and TRY the things they are suggesting, and THEN ask any additional questions if you are still having problems.

Lastly, each thread needs to concern itself with ONE issue at a time.  If you have more than one problem, than post 1 thread for EACH problem.

It is quite apparent that you are frustrated with the product.  We CAN help unravel some of it by working with you on issues.  You have a responsibility to invest time and effort doing research, watching available video clips, purchasing third-party books and/or videos, providing clear and concise details on problems as they occur, and trying to actually DO the things people are suggesting that you do to fix/workaround each issue you come across.

If you continue to post like you have so far, I can assure you that you will quickly find people completely ignoring your threads, and some will even try to have further posting blocked by the forum administration.  I URGE you to rethink your posts in this thread, per each and every one of the points I mentioned above.

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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/13 11:00:44 (permalink)
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Ax - Did you happen to write the Fostex VF160EX 16-Track Recorder user manual :-) gs

Now THAT'S funny!  Thanks for making me smile so early in the day, 


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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/13 11:35:56 (permalink)
Strange, it seemed quite close to the Fostex D90 manual as well!

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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/13 14:05:39 (permalink)
I think that there is not a lot of people using PRV, which is why this tool is not properly developed.

 
Wow....  what to say to that...
 
 
 
 
PS... I've been using the PRV *a lot* since SONAR v2, does that count?
 

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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/13 14:15:05 (permalink)
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I think that there is not a lot of people using PRV, which is why this tool is not properly developed.

 
Wow....  what to say to that...
 
 
 
 
PS... I've been using the PRV *a lot* since SONAR v2, does that count?
 


No it doesn't. You've actually opened it to be a little larger than a two inch strip so you can see all of it. It appears to work then but try working with it barely open and it's a different story apparently.

You are just cheating.
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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/13 15:51:00 (permalink)
There is something very odd here.
 
In another Troll-like thread the OP claims to have been with Sonar since version 5, and to have had Sonar 8, which begs two questions:-
 
1.  How can you use a program for so long and yet appear to know so little about how it works?
 
2.  If it really is that terrible, why keep coming back?
 
Several people have posted on how to solve the few problems that he has been able to actually describe (user errors) and he completely ignores them.
 
I bet Customer Support love it when he rings.  Having ranted incoherently at them for ten minutes, as they calmly answer how to sort his issues, I bet he sits there going "LA LA LA LA" loudly with his fingers in his ears.
 
As my brother would say, all his problems are PEBKAC errors, or ID 10T errors.
 
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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/13 16:10:36 (permalink)
^^ Or PICNIC errors (problem in chair, not in computer)

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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/13 16:33:14 (permalink)
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^^ Or PICNIC errors (problem in chair, not in computer)

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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/13 17:18:42 (permalink)
You are just cheating.

 
Yes, Karl, yes I am.   Because working with SONAR is a PICNIC.
 
 


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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/13 17:58:01 (permalink)
Just one more thing, he says in his best Columbo voice, the OP's comment that - "I think that there is not a lot of people using PRV, which is why this tool is not properly developed."
 
Perhaps he thinks we all use Sonar's fully developed Staff View, instead.. 
 
I'm guessing he reads the forums like he does the manuals - with his eyes closed.
 
And his comment - "yes, I think now they (Cakewalk) take us for idiots. "  Well, not all of us..

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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/13 18:13:49 (permalink)
Bob that's brilliantly written.

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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/13 23:21:57 (permalink)
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Just one more thing, he says in his best Columbo voice, the OP's comment that - "I think that there is not a lot of people using PRV, which is why this tool is not properly developed."
 
Perhaps he thinks we all use Sonar's fully developed Staff View, instead.. 
 
I'm guessing he reads the forums like he does the manuals - with his eyes closed.
 
And his comment - "yes, I think now they (Cakewalk) take us for idiots. "  Well, not all of us..

oh come on, we can be nice, can't we?  even if someone else is impetuous and demanding, doesn't mean we have to be does it?? remember being a newbie and having all these hopes and dreams and aspirations and expecting everything to be a piece of cake and finding out the hard way that, yes, there is a learning curve... sometimes very STEEP!!!??? i remember routing moog patch cables for hours to be able to do what i can do in 20 min now.  there weren't online forums like this available - maybe a couple of gopher sites, but still, just because someone else is frustrated we can say, "hey, we were frustrated too but this is what i know..." and if they don't take it then they will fall off but I for one know that frustration all too well, esp when I was schooled big time by john cage in a seminar and i showed my frustration. john was the epitome of the zen detatchment though, and didn't let MY attitude become HIS. this is a trait i'm learning all too well in my aged years. ;) 

 
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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/13 23:41:38 (permalink)
It's a witch.....

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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/13 23:43:53 (permalink)
sandWITCH?

 
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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/14 07:56:07 (permalink)
What no angry mob? ;)

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Re:CakeWalk SONAR X2 problems (BUGSSSsssssssss) 2012/11/14 13:38:23 (permalink)
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jb101


Just one more thing, he says in his best Columbo voice, the OP's comment that - "I think that there is not a lot of people using PRV, which is why this tool is not properly developed."

Perhaps he thinks we all use Sonar's fully developed Staff View, instead.. 

I'm guessing he reads the forums like he does the manuals - with his eyes closed.

And his comment - "yes, I think now they (Cakewalk) take us for idiots. "  Well, not all of us..

oh come on, we can be nice, can't we?  even if someone else is impetuous and demanding, doesn't mean we have to be does it?? remember being a newbie and having all these hopes and dreams and aspirations and expecting everything to be a piece of cake and finding out the hard way that, yes, there is a learning curve... sometimes very STEEP!!!??? i remember routing moog patch cables for hours to be able to do what i can do in 20 min now.  there weren't online forums like this available - maybe a couple of gopher sites, but still, just because someone else is frustrated we can say, "hey, we were frustrated too but this is what i know..." and if they don't take it then they will fall off but I for one know that frustration all too well, esp when I was schooled big time by john cage in a seminar and i showed my frustration. john was the epitome of the zen detatchment though, and didn't let MY attitude become HIS. this is a trait i'm learning all too well in my aged years. ;) 


I understand the frustration of being a newbie, but he says he's been using Sonar since version 5.  I think that puts a different light on his comments.

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