Wish I had waited to X2A or X2B

Oh! Forgot to mention colour settings, a classic example of a feature that worked exceedingly well in 8.5.3 and then the X1 and X2 bakers got hold of it. This can not be a biggy to fix. Our fellow forum member “panup” and sonar mods proves this to be the case.


And Yes all of these issues and more have been reported. if you suffer from these or other issues please tell the bakers. 

http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/ProblemReporter/  

An extra two cents

"If I treat my customers like cake treats us I would be out of business in a month. "


Well to be fair, Cakewalk is not out of business. Maybe their customers think more of them than your customers think of you :)


X2 was unstable for me before the hotfix but ever since it has been running beautifully with hardly a glitch. 

I can't understand why someone who runs a commercial studio would run an un-proven DAW.
And, what would X2 offer in that environment above and beyond 8.53, other than more need for Advil.

This forum should try to offer help not sarcastic remarks.

I have seen the attacking of posters voicing their concerns increase over the last few days. That is not what this forum is all about.

  If you have no help to offer. No information that may shed light on the issues being reported than please refrain from commenting. All this does is cause those that may need our help go elsewhere.  

If you want software to be reliable always wait for the service packs. End of. Don't blame the software makers - sorry. I've worked in QA departments with complex software (and Sonar is very complex) and although the marketeers don't want you to hear this, the consumers end up being the ultimate testers of the product, there's just too many combinations. Not even Microsoft with millions of $$$ and a huge testing lab can release bug free software.

> IMHO these are fundamental basic things that any pre-release check should have picked up.

The next argument will be that these were schoolboy errors and the bugs should have been picked up because they are obvious... again sorry no, there are too many things and combinations to test that often the "obvious" stuff gets overlooked. However when this happens good QA departments write "test cases" where they can prevent the same situation from occurring again, the bad news is though there often has to be at least one iteration a problem to happen before the test case is written (often down to time constrains). Think about the recent Apple mapping software that was released on their phones for example which ended up being acknowledged as a giant cockup - Millions of $$$ yet a company can still make a "basic" schoolboy error of moving customers onto unfinished software.

Anyway I would seriously be moaning if no service packs were to be released, and we all know they will.

> If I treat my customers like cake treats us I would be out of business in a month.

Nope Cake would be out of business. It would probably take them another two years to test the software without customer interaction, and that translates to $$$ and the competition getting further ahead. Also please believe me Cake's QA engineers are reading these posts who probably work seriously hard night and day testing... they won't admit it in public but in private let me tell you it's like being worked to death and then being stabbed in the stomach for your results reading these sort of comments. No they don't deserve it.

> If you have no help to offer. No information that may shed light on the issues being reported than please refrain from commenting. All this does is cause those that may need our help go elsewhere.

Well that was helpful .. ps I still hate Vista (M$ really cocked up this software when it was first released, only got stabilized after a service pack or two, the final service pack was called "Windows 7").

Cheers....

I agree that much. Certainly the issues explained in the original post do not appear driver or hardware related (but I wouldn't rule it out), I certainly don't think there's imagination at play here, but then see my previous comments. Really it ain't what you say it's the way that you say it - that's what gets results.

"My feeling is what worked in X1 should still work in X2 and that isn't always the case.  I'm wondering, though, if this doesn't have something to do with Roland corp's stock price falling 300 yen in the last 4 months. "


Please explain what you mean.

Yes-folks shouldn't get sarcastic remarks for posting issues. But when you post your issues-I mean the remark about his business and CWs. Was that needed? Nope-so who threw the 1st sarcastic line. Some of you guys never look at the way the bugs or issues are posted. Just post the issues, no need to hear about his biz or cws biz or your grandmas biz.
 
Dreading customers coming in in the morning. Like, whose fault is that? No one was threatened with bodily harm if they didn't upgrade. And if you make your living with this stuff-Then I am sorry but take a reality check on who upgraded-I have a home studio for me and if I was working on something just for my family to enjoy I wouldn't upgrade until it was done.
 
I don't see any heavy sarcastic remarks-One was a comment about the biz crap and the other was a response to Yes you should have waited.
 
So,..... What the heck is the big deal here?????? Wow. I guess you guys feel a need to scold simple, LOGICAL responses.
Just sayin................................................................
BTW- I do feel for the OP and hope he gets his studio working the way he needs it to be-

Thank you all for your contributions to my comments/opinion this morning before I stated work. I must say I thought people would think I should have my coffee hit first so I’m not a grumpy old fart before posting ha ha ha 

Firstly I did say on conclusion of first post… 
“Just my two cents... Sigh! I feel a little better getting that of my chest” 
and in next post that… 
“I’m a little mad at myself for throwing caution to the wind, so I do accept some responsibly for my predicament.”

Alex you make some great points in your posts, but so does swamptooth! As a hobby programmer only, I fine it a bit rich to say “engine changes” means the colour settings in 8.5.3 which as I said earlier worked exceedingly well, got all stuffed up in X1, X1a, X1b, X1c, X1d and now X2 while sonarmods “aka panup” seems to have no problems with them. Also engine changes are not responsible for the lack of a quick fix since 8.5.3 for the PX-64 Percussion Strip not retaining presets.

>So,..... What the heck is the big deal here?????? 
Yes stratman70 I agree. Although in self-defence I did not deliberately intend to pass a sarcastic line, but your point is taken.
(Note to myself… always drink full cup of extra strength coffee before posting on-line, especially if it’s a Monday morning.)

I must add here that I still maintain the essence my original post

"IMHO the bakers have once again released an under cooked cake"

To one and all… have a wonderful creative day! 

Good one Glenn.