PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE FIX NOTATION

CJaysMusic


As said before and before, Sonar is geared more for recording and mixing. Sonar will never be a full fledged notation program as Sibelius.

It seems like you have beeen waiting for this for 6 or 7 years or so. If i was you, i would stop waiting. It isnt going to happen.
If you look at the track record beginning at the first version of cakewalk, you'll see that natation has stayed the same, for the most part. They never claimed to be a notation software and by looking at the big picture through the 15 years, they never will and that is just fine with me.

You may want to pay allot more for sonar upgrades, if notation was better, but i wouldn't.

Combo


There are two sides to this – two types of notation user -  and the fact gets constantly overlooked - it has been again above despite many threads on this.

Many of those of us who are heavy notation users want notation in Sonar as the excellent tool for inputting MIDI information that it was at one point shaping up to be (it started going backwards in workflow terms with X1).  That’s really all we ask for, though if we could get an efficient means of interfacing with score-production software it would be great.   

There are, however, those who seem to think that it should go further and be capable of producing printable scores and parts like Sibelius/Finale or whatever.   This, to me (and I know to others),  is unrealistic.  (I should add I worked as a copyist and arranger since the days when it was done by pen so I know what's required).  

However, the designers seem to have tried to take this lobbying on board and have ended up trying to satisfy these demands by giving prominence to stuff like expression marks, chord diagrams and even lyrics –all meaningless clutter on the screen if you just want to input music - at the expense of quick and efficient inputting of complex notation.   I think they have realised that providing the capability of the sheet music apps is a losing battle, which is OK by me but it also seems they are shying away from improving the inputting side of notation – a case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.   

To make it worse, any thread on notation gets the two conflicting points of view confused, and the arguments start, with those who never even use notation chipping in to say demands for improvements  are unreasonable – that  ‘it ain’t gonna happen’  - because they don’t understand the distinction.

joakes


FWIW Notion 4 is now 64bits and so can be rewired into Sonar.

Clt,
Jerry

lfm

joakes


FWIW Notion 4 is now 64bits and so can be rewired into Sonar.

Clt,
Jerry

Did you try, this?

I talked to Notion people a couple of months ago and they could not do that, but took notes for future.

"This is Brian from NOTION Music Technical Support. Thanks for the email. Here
are the answers to your questions:

1. NOTION3 will run as a host or a slave. Most DAW's only run as a host though.
NOTION3 does not transmit MIDI data via ReWire but you can import a MIDI file
into the program or use MIDI out to send MIDI data via the IAC Driver or MIDI
Yoke depending on your operating system.

2. NOTION3 is not a native 64 bit application and is not compatible with 64 bit
ReWire. It will, however, run on a 64 bit operating system though.

Thanks again for the email and please let me know if I can be of any further
assistance."

If they fixed midi rewire that's swell.

Anyway, I never got rewire of midi tracks to work in Sonar 8.5 at least.
So I looked among feature stuff of X2, and still nothing mentioned that this is fixed.

If you can rewire host or notation software(either way) and just selected the midi tracks you want to use - that's a really good solution.

CJaysMusic


As said before and before, Sonar is geared more for recording and mixing. Sonar will never be a full fledged notation program as Sibelius.

It seems like you have beeen waiting for this for 6 or 7 years or so. If i was you, i would stop waiting. It isnt going to happen.
If you look at the track record beginning at the first version of cakewalk, you'll see that natation has stayed the same, for the most part. They never claimed to be a notation software and by looking at the big picture through the 15 years, they never will and that is just fine with me.

You may want to pay allot more for sonar upgrades, if notation was better, but i wouldn't.

MelodicJimmy


Dear Cakewalk, I HATE Apple. With a passion. I don't like Macs. I think they're overrated. I love Sonar. I really do. But, I'm sorry, Macs have one thing going for them: Logic Pro 9. And, what's so great about Logic Pro 9? What sets it apart from Sonar? AMAZING NOTATION. So, what is it with you people? It's almost 2013. Why can't you just either develop a great notation interface within Sonar OR get together with a notation company, such as Sibelius and let THEM do the notation part. I'd GLADLY pay more for Sonar upgrades if it had a fantastic notation system. When I say "fantastic notation system," I mean completely the opposite of what you guys have now. I mean, it really, completely SUCKS. It's terrible. It's a nightmare to use. I've made this post before, I know. I'm also not sorry. Your notation REALLY sucks. As a customer, I'd like to see this fixed.

chefmike8888

And for the record, I do know how to read music. I just have no need for it in my recording program. Mike