[Solved] Recorded clips randomly disappear when recording stops

I've seen this reported before by a few others some time back but haven't read of a solution. Until X2 I've never experienced this but i'm sure it must be a setting (buffers etc ??)   


When I am recording I will see the recorded clip in progress and everything seems to be running smoothly, but once I hit the space bar or press the stop button to stop the recording, the part I just recorded will instantly delete/disappear without trace. This is intermittent and happens on either new or old projects. Has also happens to midi as well as audio. I lost a killer bass line I laid down a few nights back   


Appreciate any help on this one. Set up:


X2a Producer 64bit, Win 7 64bit, i7,3770k cpu, 16gig ram, RME Babyface audio interface.

Or maybe you have things set to delete previous take and somehow it's thinking you've recorded a new snippet after the actual take... thus deleting it.

Just brainstorming.

Hey Beepster, thanks for your input here. 

I checked the lanes and no sign of them, and also no audio on playback so they're definitely not hidden somewhere. It's weird, sometimes the recordings 'stick' and sometimes they vanish into the unknown! I've written to tech support also but i noticed a few others reporting this some time ago - nobody seems to have figured it out thus far.

That's definitely a bad bug. Especially for those recording clients. 

IDK... maybe try doubling the track so it's recording into two tracks at once? One might survive. I doubt that'll help though and it's a pretty silly thing to have to resort to.

Are you using auto punch/loop record? If so check your Record Preferences for "Delete Previous Take". If it is engaged try disabling it.

Do you have the track selected while recording (not just in focus)? If it is actually selected try making sure that the armed track (or any track for that matter) isn't selected (Ctrl + Shift + A to unselect All). There are some bad selection problems going on so MAYBE that's part of it.

I'll keep thinking but I think I've scraped the bottom of my barrel.

Cheers.

millzy


I've seen this reported before by a few others some time back but haven't read of a solution. Until X2 I've never experienced this but i'm sure it must be a setting (buffers etc ??)   


When I am recording I will see the recorded clip in progress and everything seems to be running smoothly, but once I hit the space bar or press the stop button to stop the recording, the part I just recorded will instantly delete/disappear without trace. This is intermittent and happens on either new or old projects. Has also happens to midi as well as audio. I lost a killer bass line I laid down a few nights back   


Appreciate any help on this one. Set up:


X2a Producer 64bit, Win 7 64bit, i7,3770k cpu, 16gig ram, RME Babyface audio interface.

Ive had it happen PLENTY of times intermittently in X1. I got in the habbit of hitting record and stop, then recording just to try and get around it.  Its the intermittent thing that sux cause ya never know when it will hit ya. 

Recently rebuilt computer and reloaded everything and havent seen it as of yet.  

Not sure what causing it,  Not sure if I remember it in 8 or 8.5 either

try emptying your picture cache.
there may actually be an audio file created but no graphical representation.
this has worked for me in the past.

try emptying your picture cache. there may actually be an audio file created but no graphical representation. this has worked for me in the past.

Hey Mike cheers, haven't played with the pic cache yet but the audio is definitely not there because on playback there is nothing.

One of the things I have to consider when recording a session is risk. In this case, would be risk of the DAW. In the last several sessions I've had to go back to X1 or over to a completely different DAW just to track, then import the audio into X2a for mixing. All for different reasons, but the primary reason is unpredictability of X2a. In the case of the missing track, I've not run into this one, specifically, but something very similar. The picture cache was the culprit. Seem like an ill-fated design, maybe left over from earlier versions perhaps where the engineer didn't have the horsepower in the PC to render the "waveforms" (more appropriately named, btw).

I have seen this unpredictable behavior especially when punching on an existing track.  Everything seems to be working - I actually see a wave form generated on the screen in the punch area.  Stop recording and the graphic disappears and nothing was recorded.  Re-do the exact same punch (without changing a single setting) and it works just fine.  

This is a totally random (and thankfully rare) problem that was also present for me in X1, and with a different audio interface.

 I just discovered that if I deselect "Allow Arm Changes During Playback/Record" in Preferences under Project/Recording mode,the problem goes away. 

joeb1cannoli


 I just discovered that if I deselect "Allow Arm Changes During Playback/Record" in Preferences under Project/Recording mode,the problem goes away. 

Yes sir! That is it, BUT there's more!
 
OK after a few hours of fiddling with settings i found that with "Allow Arm Changes During Playback/Record" checked under Preferences, recorded audio clips disappear if the recording has been initiated by pressing 'R' or using the record button on the transport. If the track was played first, then 'R' or record hit during playback, the recordings 'stick'. One extremely strange exception to this however, is, if the recording is in a looped region, it all works as it should no matter how the recording was started. What the??
 
Un-checking this option in Preferences allows all recorded clips to 'stick' no matter how they were initiated (ie 'play' doesnt have to be pressed prior to record.)
MIDI seems unaffected by this setting at the moment, however i'm sure I had a midi clip 'evaporate' on me as well the other night! Maybe there is more to the recipe.
 
Anyway, I'm going to test this on a few more projects and if I can create a repeatable recipe I'll be submitting a bug report. Thanks heaps to all for your input and to Joe for nailing the workaround!! At least for now I can make my recordings 'stick'!

Thanks John!

"Allow Arm Changes During Playback/Record"

 
I never have this checked. For me it is not the solution to this issue.

No.

I think it is a memory - writing to disc issue.

I also have never had the "Allow Arm Changes During Record/Playback" option checked.  This is definitely NOT the cause of this intermittent problem on my DAW.